Taking over a family business can feel like walking a tightrope — one wrong step and relationships, trust, and legacy can unravel fast.

In this episode of Chats with Jason, Jason S. Bradshaw sits down with Jonathan Goldhill, author of Disruptive Successor and one of the world’s leading family business coaches, to unpack how next-generation leaders can step into leadership without destroying family relationships.

Most family businesses don’t fail because of profits or market conditions — they fail because of communication breakdowns, emotional tension, entitlement, and unclear succession planning. In this conversation, Jonathan shares real-world insights from coaching over 1,000 family businesses on how to earn respect, lead with confidence, and build your own legacy while honoring the past.

🔍 In this episode, you’ll learn:

1. Why most family business successions fail
2. How next-gen leaders can take control without burning bridges
3. The emotional shift required to lead parents, siblings, and relatives
4. How to balance legacy vs leadership
5. What successful multi-generation businesses do differently
6. Why communication, purpose, and emotional intelligence matter more than ever

Whether you’re preparing to take over the family business, already leading alongside parents, or advising family-owned companies, this episode offers practical strategies you can apply immediately.

🔖 Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction: The Family Business Dilemma

00:33 Meet Jonathan Goldhill: A Legacy of Coaching

01:11 Jonathan's Family Business Journey

05:44 The Hidden Reasons Family Businesses Fail

08:25 Explaining Family Business Coaching to a Child

10:41 Balancing Legacy and Vision in Family Businesses

13:28 The Importance of Emotional Intelligence

15:26 The 7Ps Playbook: Purpose and Priorities

19:04 Scaling Without Losing Your Soul

22:07 The Hunger for Success Across Generations

24:27 Rapid Fire Round: Quick Insights

25:12 Final Thoughts and Farewell

Transform the Experience. Transform Your Business.

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What if the real reason people are leaving isn’t pay, perks, or generations, but the way work is designed?

In this episode of Chats with Jason, Jason S Bradshaw sits down with Joe Mull, Hall of Fame speaker, author, and one of the world’s leading voices on employee commitment, to dismantle the myth that “no one wants to work anymore.”

Joe reveals why people don’t quit jobs, they quit the experience of work, and what leaders must change right now to attract, engage, and retain great people.

This is not another conversation about perks, ping-pong tables, or free lunches. It’s a practical, research-backed roadmap for leaders who want people to stay, thrive, and proudly say, “You should work here.”

1. Why people really leave jobs, and why it always comes back to quality of life
2. The three conditions that make people believe they have a great job
3. What truly defines a great boss, and why trust can be lost in moments
4. Why “no one wants to work anymore” has been said for 120 years
5. How to stop fixing people and start fixing work
6. The power of stay interviews, and how to run them properly
7. How to give feedback that activates effort instead of triggering defensiveness
8. What leaders must do differently in the age of AI, hybrid work, and burnout

If you lead people, even one person, this episode will permanently change how you think about employee experience, retention, and performance.

00:00 – Why leaders are struggling with hiring, retention, and engagement

01:30 – The real reason people leave jobs, it’s about quality of life

03:25 – “People do a great job when they believe they have a great job”

04:54 – The 3 elements of a great job, ideal job, meaningful work, great boss

05:50 – What actually makes a great boss

08:43 – How trust is built slowly and destroyed instantly

09:32 – The myth of “no one wants to work anymore”

10:21 – Why this belief has existed for 120 years

12:15 – People don’t want to suffer anymore

15:27 – Stop fixing people, start fixing work

17:12 – Is there a staffing shortage or a great job shortage?

20:58 – One leadership habit that instantly boosts commitment

21:23 – Why stay interviews matter more than exit interviews

27:42 – How to give feedback that improves performance without damaging trust

30:23 – Leading people in the age of AI and hybrid work

32:29 – Where to follow Joe Mull and explore his work

33:05 – Why employee experience becomes customer experience

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Every leader has said it—or at least thought it: “No one wants to work anymore.”

But what if that belief is costing you great people, productivity, and profit?

In this episode, Jason S Bradshaw sits down with Ryan Englin, bestselling author and CEO of Core Matters, to uncover why hiring struggles aren’t caused by the economy, the industry, or the next generation—but by broken hiring systems.

You’ll learn:

✅Why turnover quietly drains revenue and morale

✅How hiring is actually a marketing activity

✅The biggest hiring mistake leaders still make

✅How to attract better people before you’re desperate

If you’re tired of constant rehiring, burnout, and instability, this conversation will change how you think about hiring forever.

🔖 Timestamps:

00:00 The Hiring Dilemma: Why Finding the Right People is So Hard

00:59 Introducing Ryan Englin: Master of Frontline Hiring

01:56 The Real Cost of Bad Hires

04:14 Simplifying Hiring: A Lunchbox Analogy

05:09 Why Hiring is Harder Today

10:52 Recruiting as a Marketing Activity

14:05 The Core Fit Hiring System Explained

18:50 Becoming an Employer of Choice

22:55 Immediate Steps to Improve Candidate Quality

24:54 The Psychological Shift of Proactive Hiring

26:54 Final Thoughts and Encouragement for Leaders

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