• Episode 297 - Getting REAL About Holding Space for Wisdom to Emerge with Jodee
    Feb 19 2026
    I've been noticing something for the past few years. As a speaker and author, I used to work really hard to make sure the message was "right." But lately I've been experimenting with what happens when I let the message find me. I might say or write something and think "oh, that's good." Not in an ego-based way, but in an aligned way. Like I'm learning from myself in real time. If you've listened to any of these Facebook Lives over the 5+ years I've been doing them, you may have noticed. Something really cool happens when I stop editing myself. Maybe there's real intelligence that only shows up when it's invited, not forced.
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    34 mins
  • Episode 296 - Getting REAL About Conclusions & Discernment with Jodee
    Feb 11 2026

    I've been watching the conversation about the Super Bowl halftime show unfold online and what struck me isn't the show(s) themselves but how quickly narratives and opinions formed.

    Some people are saying Bad Bunny's show included vulgar lyrics. There was an alternative halftime show. There are rumors about where it was filmed - if it was lip synced.

    And I found myself thinking: wait ... what do we actually KNOW? And how do we DECIDE?

    Today's episode isn't necessarily about the halftime show options. It's about what and how we decide. Is it possible to watch something or listen to someone else without judging?

    The commenters on today's live recording added so much to the dialogue. One person added actual lyrics to a Bad Bunny song (which were too vulgar for me to repeat). But are those the lyrics he sang at the halftime show? The jury's still out on that.

    How do we discern? Who do we listen to?

    Welcome to today's episode.

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    39 mins
  • Episode 295 - Getting REAL About Leading Yourself First with Jake Luehrs
    1 hr and 2 mins
  • Episode 294 - Getting REAL About Keeping Your Spark with Jodee
    Jan 29 2026

    We humans have a lot to process these days.

    The two topics we are never supposed to talk about in public are religion and politics, and both seem to be taking up a lot of space in heads and hearts without any way to process, if we are following that advice.

    What is a human to do with only our own thoughts if we don't have a safe space to process?

    I took on an experiment over the weekend, which I wouldn't recommend anyone else doing unless you're very prepared. Hint: If you want to connect, there are ways other than social media.

    In this episode I mention Michael Singer, the author of "The Untethered Soul" and "The Surrender Experiment," among others.

    I also refer to the CNN story Anderson Cooper did about the Resistance Singers. You can see that here: https://youtu.be/tp3ABvXXEsE?si=VUR9HOzZb5I93_2l

    Check out the Enlightened Leadership Labs Mondays at 4 central if you're looking for a safe space to practice all aspects of leadership, listening, and real communication. (www.emergentculturelabs.com/leadershiplab).

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    30 mins
  • Episode 293 - Getting REAL About Both/And with Jodee
    Jan 22 2026

    I've been sitting with something this week and I want to name it out loud, and see if there is dialogue to be created around it.

    When people go all-in on any single viewpoint - political or otherwise - it seems to me that nuance disappears. And when we lose nuance, we lose curiosity.

    So I wonder where curiosity lives in the world of this or that. Does it? What happens when curiosity dies?

    Is there space for Both/And instead of only Either/Or?

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    42 mins
  • Episode 292 - Getting REAL About Peace in the Chaos with Jodee
    Jan 15 2026

    What happens to us humans when we feel like we are the only ones thinking or feeling something? If we don't have a place to process what we are seeing, it's easy to second guess our own perception.

    I've been thinking about this in a leadership context, and I'm reminded of two books I've studied, both by The Arbinger Institute: Leadership and Self Deception and The Anatomy of Peace.

    The premise is that when we are under stress, humans tend to see others not as humans but as objects. This can easily happen when we fall below the line into unconsciousness: being closed, defensive, and committed to being right. Is there another way to see things? I'd like to believe so.

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    32 mins
  • Episode 291 - Getting REAL About A.I. and Culture with Jodee
    Jan 6 2026

    In this episode of Circle Up & Get REAL, I'm exploring some thoughts about leadership (no surprise) and what pressure might do to the humans who are in those leadership roles.

    What role might AI have, not just in our corporate efficiencies, but in creating a culture of awareness and acceptance instead of fear?

    In other words, if we stay in curiosity instead of falling into certainty, what could the rise of AI mean to our corporate cultures?

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    25 mins
  • Episode 290 - Getting REAL About Owning Your Magnificence with Sue Paulson
    Dec 26 2025

    In today's episode, I chat with my friend Sue Paulson, a 2-time cancer survivor and a survivor of a near-death experience, all of which have awakened her to her own magnificence, which she now mentors others to understand for themselves.

    Sue is the author of several books, including her memoir, Magnificent Misery, about her health journey.

    In our conversation, Sue shared her personal journey with cancer, which she experienced in 2011 and 2012. She realized that her body is a communication device that alerts her to issues, and she learned to pay more attention to these signals. Sue acknowledged that she had deep-seated beliefs about her worth, which she had to challenge during her cancer treatment. Since 2012, she has been cancer-free and has focused on self-care and personal growth, including psychotherapy sessions to understand the underlying causes of her illness. Sue's cancer journey opened her to the concept of each person's inherent magnificence and the dream of experiencing heaven right here on earth. To that end, she co-created The Magnificence Lab in 2023 and is currently conducting workshops and mentoring others about those two concepts. You can learn more about Sue by visiting her website, www.suepaulson.com.
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    58 mins