Episodes

  • The State of the Senate, from SC to ME to TX to KS
    Jul 16 2026

    This episode of Dangerous Dogma features a conversation between Word&Way Editor Brian Kaylor, Lutheran minister and journalist Angela Denker, and Disciples pastor and author Beau Underwood. The conversation includes discussion about the death of Sen. Lindsey Graham as well as issues of faith and morality in Senate races in Maine, Texas, and Kansas. You can watch a video version of the conversation here.

    Here are a few pieces related to the episode:
    - A report on Ken Paxton's trip to London with his alleged mistress.
    - A poll from the Kansas Senate race.
    - A report on Adam Hamilton's campaign fundraising.
    - Kristin Kobes Du Mez's forthcoming book, Live Laugh Love.
    - Tia Levings's book, A Well-Trained Wife.
    - The Secret World of Roald Dahl podcast.

    Also, check out the most recent books by the three panelists:

    • Brian Kaylor, The Bible According to Christian Nationalists: Exploiting Scripture for Political Power
    • Angela Denker, Disciples of White Jesus: The Radicalization of American Boyhood
    • Beau Underwood (with Brian Kaylor), Baptizing America How Mainline Protestants Helped Build Christian Nationalism
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    42 mins
  • Southern Baptists, the Pentagon, & UFC
    Jun 18 2026

    This episode of Dangerous Dogma features a conversation between Word&Way Editor Brian Kaylor, Lutheran minister and journalist Angela Denker, and Disciples pastor and author Beau Underwood. The conversation includes discussion about the Southern Baptist Convention's push against women in ministry, the Pentagon changing how it codes the faith of military members, and the latest in the world of sports. You can watch a video version of the conversation here.

    Here are a few pieces related to the episode:
    - Angela mentioned All the Buried Women podcast from Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke.
    - Brian wrote for Baptist News Global about how "Not all Baptists are Southern."
    - Brian wrote for A Public Witness about sexual abuse and the SBC's rightward shift.
    - Angela mentioned a piece by Tia Levings about the SBC.
    - Brian and Jeremy Fuzy wrote for A Public Witness about the Pentagon's new religion codes.
    - Angela mentioned a piece about people Knicks fans on Rikers Island & a New Yorker piece about Andrew Tate.
    - Brian mentioned On the Media's special podcast series "American Emergency."

    Also, check out the most recent books by the three panelists:

    • Brian Kaylor, The Bible According to Christian Nationalists: Exploiting Scripture for Political Power
    • Angela Denker, Disciples of White Jesus: The Radicalization of American Boyhood
    • Beau Underwood (with Brian Kaylor), Baptizing America How Mainline Protestants Helped Build Christian Nationalism
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    55 mins
  • Southern Baptists, Women in Ministry, & a Billboard
    Jun 5 2026

    In this episode, Word&Way President Brian Kaylor talks with Meredith Stone, executive director of Baptist Women in Ministry. The conversation includes discussion of efforts in the Southern Baptist Convention to further target women serving in churches and how BWIM is advocating for women (including with a billboard to greet SBC messengers next week in Orlando, Florida). You can watch a video version of this conversation on YouTube.

    Here are a few pieces related to the episode:
    - Brian wrote for Word&Way about joining BWIM's advocacy outside an SBC meeting in 2024.
    - Learn more about Paul Pressler, the allegations against him, and what it means for the SBC.
    - Learn more about Al Mohler's current push against women in ministry (and even on podcasts).

    Note: Don't forget to subscribe to our award-winning e-newsletter A Public Witness that helps you make sense of faith, culture, and politics. And order the new book by Brian Kaylor, The Bible According to Christian Nationalists: Exploiting Scripture for Political Power.

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    31 mins
  • Divergent Visions for Rededicating the Nation
    May 21 2026

    This episode of Dangerous Dogma features a conversation between Word&Way Editor Brian Kaylor, Lutheran minister and journalist Angela Denker, and Disciples pastor and author Beau Underwood. The conversation includes discussion about Rededicate 250, gerrymandering, Adam Hamilton's Senate campaign in Kansas, and the MAHA movement. You can watch a video version of the conversation here.

    Here are a few pieces related to the episode:
    - Brian wrote at A Public Witness both a preview Rededicate 250 and a reflection on the event.
    - Angela mentioned a reflection by Madeline Peltz on "Being Jewish at Rededicate 250."
    - Brian wrote a column for Religion News Service about Trump reading from 2 Chronicles 7.
    - Brian wrote about how the Bible has been misused to justify gerrymandering.
    - The Kansas GOP filed an IRS complaint against the Church of the Resurrection.
    - Brian and Jeremy Fuzy wrote about Stephen Colbert as a prophet.
    - A Public Witness broke the viral story about Pete Hegseth's Pulp Fiction prayer.

    Also, check out the most recent books by the three panelists:

    • Brian Kaylor, The Bible According to Christian Nationalists: Exploiting Scripture for Political Power
    • Angela Denker, Disciples of White Jesus: The Radicalization of American Boyhood
    • Beau Underwood (with Brian Kaylor), Baptizing America How Mainline Protestants Helped Build Christian Nationalism
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    54 mins
  • The Christian Past That Wasn't
    May 15 2026

    In this episode, Word&Way President Brian Kaylor talks with Warren Throckmorton, a retired professor who has spent years debunking false claims by Christian Nationalist pseudo-historian David Barton. Throckmorton is the author of the new book, The Christian Past that Wasn't: Debunking the Christian Nationalist Myths that Hijack History. You can watch a video version of this conversation on YouTube.

    Here are a few pieces related to the episode:
    - Warren previously appeared on Dangerous Dogma to talk about Getting Jefferson Right.
    - Brian wrote about a Missouri Senate hearing involving a debate about Benjamin Franklin and prayer.
    - Brian wrote about Sunday's "Rededicate 250" rally on the National Mall.

    Note: Don't forget to subscribe to our award-winning e-newsletter A Public Witness that helps you make sense of faith, culture, and politics. And order the new book by Brian Kaylor, The Bible According to Christian Nationalists: Exploiting Scripture for Political Power.

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    38 mins
  • Trump vs. Leo
    Apr 17 2026

    This episode of Dangerous Dogma features a conversation between Word&Way Editor Brian Kaylor, Lutheran minister and journalist Angela Denker, and Disciples pastor and author Beau Underwood. The conversation includes discussion about President Donald Trump's attacks on Pope Leo XIV, Leo's witness against the Iran war, Trump's AI image of himself as Jesus, and the electoral defeat of Viktor Orbán in Hungary. You can watch a video version of the conversation here.

    Here are a few pieces related to the episode:
    - Pope Leo's Palm Sunday remarks against war.
    - Brian wrote at A Public Witness about Pete Hegseth's violent prayer at the March Pentagon worship service.
    - Trump attacked the pope and posted an AI image of himself as Jesus.
    - PRRI study shows Republican attitudes on Christian Nationalism.

    Also, check out the most recent books by the three panelists:

    • Brian Kaylor, The Bible According to Christian Nationalists: Exploiting Scripture for Political Power
    • Angela Denker, Disciples of White Jesus: The Radicalization of American Boyhood
    • Beau Underwood (with Brian Kaylor), Baptizing America How Mainline Protestants Helped Build Christian Nationalism
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    50 mins
  • Fight Like Jesus with Jason Porterfield (Reissue)
    Apr 1 2026

    In this episode, Word&Way President Brian Kaylor talks with Jason Porterfield about his book Fight Like Jesus: How Jesus Waged Peace. This episode originally aired in 2023, except for a new introduction noting a violent prayer by Pete Hegseth during a recent Pentagon worship service and Palm Sunday comments by Pope Leo XIV.

    Note: Don't forget to subscribe to our award-winning e-newsletter A Public Witnessthat helps you make sense of faith, culture, and politics. And order the new book by Brian Kaylor, The Bible According to Christian Nationalists: Exploiting Scripture for Political Power.

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    50 mins
  • Pete Hegseth's Crusader Bible (A Trick of State)
    Mar 22 2026

    In this episode, Word&Way President Brian Kaylor considers Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth's use of the English Standard Version of the Bible, patriarchy in the faith communities Hegseth has been a part of, and his Christian Nationalism. It also reveals that Hegseth's ESV Bible includes two Crusader symbols stamped onto the cover (and that match tattoos on his body): a Jerusalem Cross and the phrase "Deus Vult."

    This is the second episode of "A Trick of State," a special occasional series from Dangerous Dogma. In this series, Kaylor investigates underexplored issues at the intersection of church and state that expose the false promises of Christian Nationalism. This episode includes interviews with sociologist Samuel Perry (author of Religion for Realists and coauthor of Taking America Back for God and The Flag and the Cross) and journalist Sarah Stankorb (author of Disobedient Women and the forthcoming Damned If She Does).

    ABOVE: The Jerusalem Cross (left) and "Deus Vult" (right) on Pete Hegseth's Bible. (Instagram account of Rock Wall Bibles)

    Here are a few pieces related to the episode:

    • Study by Samuel Perry on "The Bible as a Product of Cultural Power: The Case of Gender Ideology in the English Standard Version"
    • Study by Samuel Perry on "Whitewashing Evangelical Scripture: Intransitivity, Engaged Orthodoxy, and the Case of Slavery and Antisemitism in the English Standard Version"
    • Coverage by Brian Kaylor on the Pentagon worship services
    • Piece by Brian Kaylor on the fake story of George Washington's prayer at Valley Forge
    • Article by Brian Kaylor on Hegseth's remarks at the 2026 National Prayer Breakfast

    Note: Don't forget to subscribe to our award-winning e-newsletter A Public Witness that helps you make sense of faith, culture, and politics. And order the new book by Brian Kaylor, The Bible According to Christian Nationalists: Exploiting Scripture for Political Power.

    Previous episode of "A Trick of State": Rewriting the Ten Commandments

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    56 mins