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In the pilot episode of the Design Systems Podcast, host Chris Strahl talks with Evan Lovely about design systems as a whole. What are they? Who are they meant for? What are the benefits? And more.


Evan Lovely
CTO and Co-Founder, Basalt and Knapsack
Evan is the CTO of Basalt. His pragmatism and craftsmanship are contagious within project teams. He believes that encouraging creativity, tinkering, and close collaboration leads to the most elegant solutions. A respected and trusted resource in the tech community, Evan is the Pattern Lab PHP Maintainer, an open-source platform for static site generation using atomic design.

You can find Evan on Twitter and LinkedIn.

Other Show Notes
In this episode, the guys are drinking Migration Brewing's Straight Outta Portland IPA.

Chris talks with Nam Ho about the project manager's perspective when working on design systems. They cover how you build them, what's different about project management when you're building a design system and more.

Nam Ho
EVP of Delivery and Co-Founder, Basalt and Knapsack
Nam’s energy, enthusiasm, and passion for technology drive his consistent delivery of polished end products. Nam oversees the execution of every moving element of a project and fosters communication and iterative planning at each phase--from strategy to development to implementation. Working closely with clients and core management, Nam builds cohesive, collaborative development teams that ensure every phase of each project runs smoothly stays on schedule and remains within budget. Nam employs over seven years of insight and experience with software projects in high-tech firms, delivering software rapidly, efficiently, and with minimal risk.

You can find Nam on Twitter and LinkedIn.

Other Show Notes
In this episode, the guys are drinking a Portland, OR favorite, 10 Barrel IPA. Read Brad Frost's blog on Conducting an Interface Inventory.

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Chris and Emily Campbell discuss the convergence of design and code, and what that actually looks like. They walk through what a designer role looks like in a modern digital product team and Emily explains her idea that design and development are the same. They just have different approaches to the same process or medium.

Other topics the duo touch on include questioning if designers should learn to code, intent around design and development, the importance of making intentional decisions, and more.


Emily Campbell
Senior Design Specialist, InVision
Emily is a veteran design and product practitioner. She is currently a Senior Designer on InVision's Design Transformation team, where she helps teams and leaders increase their impact by maturing their practices and developing a culture of learning and collaboration. She focuses on human-centered design, translating creative strategy into business value, building a culture of leadership, and sharing ownership across disciplines. On the side, Emily enjoys exploring the desert around her home in Moab, Utah with her husband and three kids.

You can find Emily on Twitter and LinkedIn.

Other Show Notes
Learn about Conway's Law and the Portland Swifts.