Control Plane CEO Doron Grinstein joins me to discuss how they’ve created an AI-native cloud API that virtualizes multi-cloud and hybrid cloud to simplify management and ship faster.

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🖥️ Watch demos from the live stream.

😇 My new GitHub Security workshop has launched! A free 2-hour workshop with hands-on labs to harden your repos and your workflows from common supply chain attacks. I'll cover how attackers are getting in, and then we'll lock down a sample repo so you know what needs to be done to protect your code. You'll leave with a deep understanding of risks and mitigations as well as a list of helpful tools to keep your repos safe, including my new "gasa" tool for scanning your repos and orgs.

★Show Links★

• https://controlplane.com
• https://docs.controlplane.com/introduction
• get a free month to experiment with. email doron@controlplane.com

Creators & Guests

• Cristi Cotovan - Editor
• Bret Fisher - Host
• Beth Fisher - Producer
• Doron Grinstein - Guest

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• (00:00) - A single API for multicloud with Control Plane
• (04:42) - Introduction: Meet Doron Greenstein
• (09:36) - What Is Control Plane?
• (13:31) - The Union of All Clouds
• (15:25) - Adoption and Onboarding
• (18:59) - Eliminating Infrastructure Toil
• (24:01) - AI Agents in DevOps
• (29:19) - Infrastructure as Code in the Agent Era
• (33:04) - Small Teams and Non-Developers
• (37:35) - Compliance and the Data Problem
• (40:50) - Scaling, Secrets, and Audit Trails
• (44:48) - Cost Efficiency and Getting Started

What does an AI-native CI look like? The Semaphore team joins me to talk about their focus on making your agent harness the gateway to testing, fixing, and deploying your code.

Video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/HzXAdtVrW70

★Show Links★

Semaphore https://semaphore.io/

Semaphore open source https://github.com/semaphoreio/semaphore

SLSA Security Checklist https://slsa.dev/

Creators & Guests

• Marcos Filipe - Guest
• Cristi Cotovan - Editor
• Bret Fisher - Host
• Beth Fisher - Producer
• Marko Gaćeša - Guest

• (00:00) - Introduction
• (00:29) - AI Native CI Vision
• (04:54) - Bret's Update
• (09:03) - Semaphore AI Journey
• (22:39) - Open Source Platform Shift
• (37:28) - Plugins CLI MCP Skills
• (43:11) - Work Until CI Is Green
• (45:42) - Test Boxes and Agentic CI Loop
• (57:39) - Sandboxing and Least Privilege
• (01:10:12) - Roadmap SLSA and Getting Started

OpenChoreo is a “batteries included”, AI-native Kubernetes platform stack for Platform Engineers that combines GitOps, Observability, AI Agents, and Workflows into a custom K8s distribution “super pack” that is managed via Backstage, CLI, API, or MCP.

Check out the video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/AqGWjxEfj2g

😇 My new GitHub Security workshop has launched! A free 2-hour workshop with hands-on labs to harden your repos and your workflows from common supply chain attacks. I'll cover how attackers are getting in, and then we'll lock down a sample repo so you know what needs to be done to protect your code. You'll leave with a deep understanding of risks and mitigations as well as a list of helpful tools to keep your repos safe, including my new "gasa" tool for scanning your repos and orgs.

★Show Links★

• OpenChoreo on CNCF
• OpenChoreo on GitHub
• OpenChoreo website
• SRE Day walkthrough

Creators & Guests

• Cristi Cotovan - Editor
• Bret Fisher - Host
• Beth Fisher - Producer
• Sameera Jayasoma - Guest
• Lakmal Warusawithana - Guest

You can also support this podcast by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my monthly newsletter at bret.news!

Grab the best coupons for my GitHub, Agents, Docker, and Kubernetes courses.
Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord.
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Homepage bretfisher.com

• (00:00) - MAIN - Video Podcast
• (00:00) - Introduction
• (08:29) - What Makes OpenChoreo Different
• (16:41) - Agents as First-Class Citizens
• (24:50) - The Future of Agentic DevOps
• (32:55) - Deploying with Agents: Live Demo
• (39:26) - Sandboxing & SRE Auto-Remediation
• (47:03) - Getting Started & Wrap-Up