Co-Hosts Mike Mason and Dave Lester welcome multi-time return guest, Kayla Jentes, back on the show to talk about Lot and his daughters living in a cave. Lot is afraid in the city of Zoar so he and his daughters flee to a cave in the mountains. It is there that Lot's daughters hatch a plot to preserve their family line through sexually assaulting their father. It is a story that is morally outrageous but also contains some complexity. The hosts and guest also talk about how the point of this epilogue to the Sodom and Gomorrah account is the origin of the Moabites and the Ammonites.

Follow and read Kayla Jentes' writings: https://thenerdychiro.substack.com/

Listen to the Bible Project Podcast here: https://bibleproject.com/podcasts/shows/the-bible-project-podcast/

Sources used for this episode:

*The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis by Dr. John Walton

*Word Biblical Commentary: Genesis 16-50 by Gordon J. Wenham

*The IVP Bible Background Commentary: Old Testament by John H. Walton, Victor H Matthews & Mark W. Chavalas

*Come Out My People: God's Call Out of Empire in the Bible and Beyond by Wes Howard-Brook

*The JPS Commentary: Genesis by Nahum Sarna

*Reading Genesis by Marilynne Robinson

Co-Hosts Mike Mason and Dave Lester welcome back Kayla Jentes to walk through the rest of the Sodom and Gomorrah judgment. We end up talking a great deal about Lot's character, his relationship to God and his actions while fleeing the city that he had lived in with his family.

We also discuss the wrath of God being poured out upon Sodom and Gomorrah (as well as the cities of the plains) as God spares Lot and his family.

Follow and read Kayla Jentes' writings: https://thenerdychiro.substack.com/

Sources used for this episode:

*The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis by Dr. John Walton

*Word Biblical Commentary: Genesis 16-50 by Gordon J. Wenham

*The IVP Bible Background Commentary: Old Testament by John H. Walton, Victor H Matthews & Mark W. Chavalas

*Come Out My People: God's Call Out of Empire in the Bible and Beyond by Wes Howard-Brook

*The Bible and Homosexual Practice: Texts and Hermenuetics by Robert A.J. Gagnon

*The Bible, Gender and Sexuality by James V Brownson

*The Widening of God's Mercy: Sexuality Within the Biblical Story by Christopher B Hays and Richard B. Hayes

*Reading Genesis by Marilynne Robinson

*"Zimbardo Stanford Prison Experiment". Simply Psychology by Dr. Saul McLeod. https://www.simplypsychology.org/zimbardo.html

*"New Archaeological Evidence Points to Sodom and Gomorrah's Location Near the Dead Sea" Israel365News by Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz. https://israel365news.com/413653/new-archaeological-evidence-points-to-sodom-and-gomorrahs-location-near-the-dead-sea/

Host Dave Lester preached about the meaning of life and the Garden of Eden at Central Kitsap Presbyterian Church on May 31, 2026.

Church website: https://ckpres.org/

Sources Used for this Episode:

*The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis by Dr. John Walton

*Word Biblical Commentary: Genesis 1-15 by Gordon J. Wenham

*Biologos article: "What is the Relationship Between the Creation Accounts in Genesis 1 and 2?" by J. Richard Middleton. https://biologos.org/articles/what-is-the-relationship-between-the-creation-accounts-in-genesis-1-and-2

*Biologos article: "Israel's Two Creation Stories" by Pete Enns. https://biologos.org/articles/israels-two-creation-stories

*Reading Genesis 1-2: An Evangelical Conversation edited by J. Daryl Charles