We filmed this episode back in May, before Bree welcomed a new life into the world and before Vik lost his mother. A lot has changed since then. As we release it now, it feels more relevant than ever. Drinks With a VC has always been about more than startups and term sheets. It’s about the humans behind the headlines, the resilience it takes to build, the humility to grow, the clarity to catch the next wave, and the wisdom to know when to let one go.

There’s no better guest to rejoin the conversation with than Tae Hea Nahm. He is the founding managing director of Storm Ventures, co-author of Survival to Thrival, and a deeply thoughtful investor, operator, and teacher. From St. Louis to Seoul to Sand Hill Road, Tae Hea has seen it all, and he continues to anticipate the next wave before most founders even paddle out.

In this episode, we dive into his Path to Surfing Unicorn framework and why founders need to anticipate the wave before they try to surf it if they want to build category-defining companies.

We also get into:

🌊 How to ride, and switch, the right market wave
🤖 Where AI startups should play in the stack (and what layers are getting crushed)
🚨 Real talk on platform risk and why Google’s bundling may change the game
📈 A founder-friendly definition of product-market fit, plus three signs your customers are truly happy
🧠 Why empathy isn’t optional, and how customer discovery really works
🧑‍💼 How founder-CEOs evolve, and how to know when they can’t
📊 How to use advisors the right way, including what equity to grant them
💸 The fundraising two-step: win a champion, then arm them with a killer one-pager

Also: green juice, soju, seaweed soup, Civilization V, and one of our biggest unboxing gifts ever (yes, it’s a surfboard).

👇 Must-have links and founder resources:
🧭 Survival to Thrival (free downloads): https://www.survivaltothrival.com/
📖 The Entrepreneur’s Odyssey by Andrew Ackerman: http://bit.ly/4kfrtKu
📊 Cap table management done right: www.fidelityprivateshares.com
🚀 The Irresistible Startup fundraising guide: https://www.taylorstreetco.com/irresistible-startup
🤖 Meet Ira, the Irresistible Startup Bot: https://www.taylorstreetco.com/meet-ira
🗞 Sign up for our monthly newsletter: www.dwavc.com
🎧 Like, subscribe, and share if this one resonates.
🏄 Keep your eyes on the wave.

📺 Episode chapters:
00:22 Introduction and Welcome
00:44 Sponsor Message: Fidelity Private Chairs
01:06 Catch-Up with Brie
01:51 Introducing Today's Guest: Te
04:08 Te's Early Life and Education
07:51 Choosing a Career Path
11:20 Immigration Experience in St. Louis
20:38 Founding Venture Law Group
23:11 Investing and Founding Storm Ventures
27:26 The Surfing Analogy for Startups
28:26 VC Unboxing Segment
33:59 AI and the Future of Investment
38:59 The Importance of Platform Choice
42:01 Customer Discovery and Empathy
44:24 Closing Thoughts and Reflections
45:28 Empathy for the Customer
46:06 The Decline of Customer Empathy
46:37 Exercising the Empathy Muscle
47:14 Teaching Customer Empathy
50:16 Defining Product-Market Fit
50:53 Identifying Happy Customers
54:17 The Founder to Manager Transition
55:06 The Role of Founder CEOs
57:30 Learning from Failures
01:02:47 The Importance of Mentors
01:08:07 Advice on Fundraising
01:13:18 Qualifying Your Inner Circle
01:17:15 The Fidelity Fiv

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🚀 Fundraising help: Download The Irresistible Startup
🤖 …or meet Ira, the Irresistible Startup Bot
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In this episode of DrinksWithAVC, we sit down with Oakland-native Drew Glover, Co-Founder of Fiat Growth and General Partner at Fiat Ventures, for a masterclass on identity, resilience, and rewriting the rules of venture capital.

Over green juice and kombucha, Drew reflects on growing up with civically minded parents, early lessons in code-switching, and the mindset shifts that carried him from Cal Football to operator roles at startups like Steady, to co-founding a growth consultancy and eventually becoming a mission-driven investor.

You’ll learn how to:

• Nail your fundraising story by focusing on your customer—not your ego
• Build trust with investors (especially if you don’t fit the “Stanford founder” mold)
• Spot startup opportunities that serve overlooked communities
• Use emotional intelligence as a strategic advantage in leadership and venture
• Move from operator to capital allocator with clarity and intention
• Develop a go-to-market strategy and scale user acquisition using the Chime playbook

Drew also offers an unflinching take on the rise and retreat of DEI in venture, why mandates miss the mark, and how his fund continues to outperform without one—because diversity is embedded in who they are.

If you're building something meaningful and want to stand out in a crowded market, this is a must-listen.

Episode links:
www.fiat.vc
www.fiatgrowth.com

Episode timestamps:
00:00 Introduction to Drinks With a VC
02:34 Meet Drew Glover: The Pride of Bishop O'Dowd
02:47 Choosing Green Juice Over Alcohol
03:14 The Trend of Drinking Less Alcohol
03:50 Drew's Drink of Choice: Vodka Martinis
04:37 Digital Detox and Drinking Habits
06:09 Bree's Big Reveal: Sobriety and Pregnancy
07:23 Growing Up in Oakland: Drew's Background
07:55 Drew's Parents: Civic-Minded and Inspirational
15:24 The Importance of Code Switching
18:24 Drew's Journey to Cal and Football
23:56 From Football to Venture Capital
25:23 Starting Fiat Growth and Fiat VC
35:36 Fundraising and the Impact of DEI
37:26 The Future of Venture Capital
45:17 The Shift Around Race and Education
45:38 Catastrophic Events and Positive Change
45:57 Diversity in Venture Capital
46:32 Drew's Impressive Portfolio
46:55 The Importance of Representation
48:46 Balancing Good and Success
50:05 Future of Inclusion and Change
52:03 Advice for Underrepresented Founders
52:33 Building Your Own Solutions
54:40 Growth Marketing Fundamentals
55:15 Distribution as a Competitive Moat
56:53 Fiat Growth's Unique Approach
01:05:53 Understanding Customer Personas
01:10:53 Diligence in Venture Capital
01:15:42 Personal Insights and Reflections

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🚀 Fundraising help: Download The Irresistible Startup
🤖 …or meet Ira, the Irresistible Startup Bot
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What do tiddlywinks, a quarter trick, and a failed Palantir deal have in common? They all show up in Andrew Ackerman’s one-of-a-kind path from founder to family office director, accelerator operator, and venture capitalist to now SPV syndicate lead and author.

Andrew pulls no punches on what most startups get wrong — from pitch decks that waste space to market slides that make investors roll their eyes. He shares lessons learned from backing 70+ startups on how to actually stand out in a noisy fundraising environment, why EdTech broke his heart, and how day drinking helped him write The Entrepreneur’s Odyssey — a startup guide founders might actually finish.

Also in this episode:

- His “accidental” real estate empire
- EdTech’s big COVID moment (and what came after)
- The one thing every founder should know about market sizing
- And yes, Andrew answers the Fidelity Five Questions.

If you’ve ever wondered what VCs really think when they see your deck — this one’s for you!

Episode links:
www.AndrewBAckerman.com
Entrepreneur's Odyssey

Episode timestamps:
00:00 DWAVC Episode: Andrew Ackerman
03:28 Guest Introduction and Background
05:25 March Madness Predictions
07:42 Andrew's Origin Story
16:18 Parenting in the Digital Age
30:27 Andrew's Unique Skills
31:01 Discussing the New Book
31:52 Inspiration Behind the Book
32:15 Writing Process and Challenges
37:23 Character Development
40:37 Market Sizing and Go-to-Market Strategies
44:14 Importance of Value Proposition
01:13:52 Fundraising Insights
01:15:27 Navigating VC Funding Strategies
01:17:19 Challenges for Non-Ivy League Founders
01:20:09 Importance of Warm Intros
01:22:33 Accessing Capital Outside Major Hubs
01:24:37 The Role of Location in Startup Success
01:27:09 Influence of Science Fiction on Entrepreneurship
01:29:56 The Rise of PropTech
01:41:28 Fidelity Five Questions

📊 Cap table management needs? Check out Fidelity Private Shares
🚀 Fundraising help: Download The Irresistible Startup
🤖 …or meet Ira, the Irresistible Startup Bot
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