Episodes

  • There Are No Equal Signs in Biology
    Sep 18 2025
    Jay Cross interviews me about my new paper, The Reasonable Ineffectiveness of Mathematics in the Biological Sciences (co-authored with Sy Garte and Stuart Kauffman.) Together we explore why “there are no equal signs in biology,” how this revelation redefines medicine as we know it, and the post-computational, post-permission future of healing—with new hope for people facing serious health challenges. Jay is an accomplished direct response copywriter and researcher with great interest in the “third transition” in science, and this conversation opens that up in a big way.

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    1 hr and 49 mins
  • Thin Places: Where the space between this world and the next is thinner
    Sep 15 2025
    Perry describes a series of life-changing "thin place" experiences that shifted his reality. This was presented to Adam Safron's Sapience group, followed by a guided meditation and a Q&A at the end. A further expansion on these ideas is online at perrymarshall.com/ireland.

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    1 hr and 10 mins
  • Beyond Evolution: Purposeful Biology Isn't Just For Christians Anymore
    Aug 13 2025

    Sy Garte's book, Beyond Evolution, is written for the person who is trying to reconcile their deep yearnings for meaning and significance with the longstanding scientific dogma that nature has no purpose. Not only is the tide shifting dramatically inside of secular science, the new discoveries are connecting gaps between the many factions and divisions within the religious world.


    Sy Garte

    Email: sygarte@gmail.com [mailto:sygarte@gmail.com]

    Website: https://sygarte.com/

    Substack: https://sygarte.substack.com/


    Pre-order Beyond Evolution on Amazon [https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Evolution-Discoveries-Science-Point/dp/B0DJY6PY7H]


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    52 mins
  • Bridging Evolution: A Conversation Between Intelligent Design and Third Way
    Aug 12 2025


    What happens when researchers from competing scientific worldviews sit down for an honest conversation? In this dialogue, three thinkers—exploring Neo-Darwinism,

    Third Way evolution, and Intelligent Design—discover unexpected common ground while respecting disagreements. Denis Noble (Oxford University, Third Way evolution, www.thethirdwayofevolution.com), Casey Luskin (Discovery Institute, Intelligent Design, www.evolutionnews.org), and Perry Marshall (Evolution 2.0, bridge-builder, www.evo2.org) engage in the kind of scientific discourse that's increasingly rare: genuine curiosity about opposing viewpoints without the usual academic tribalism.


    • A Third Way evolutionist who challenges both Neo-Darwinian orthodoxy AND Intelligent Design assumptions
    • An ID theorist who genuinely appreciates criticisms of mainstream evolutionary theory
    • Discoveries of shared ground where opponents thought none existed
    • Honest wrestling with profound questions about consciousness, agency, and the nature of life itself


    This isn't just another evolution debate. It's a case study in how scientists engage across ideological divides to advance understanding. The most profound insights often emerge not from echo chambers, but from healthy tension between opposing ideas. "We don't substitute any certainties whatsoever... let it evolve. Let us find out, let us, for God's sake, be open to what it might be that we discover."


    Denis Noble Transcript: https://evo2.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/Bridging-Evolution-A-Conversation-Between-Intelligent-Design-and-Third-Way-transcript.pdf

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    46 mins
  • What does it mean to truly flourish?
    Jun 20 2025

    Andrew Briggs started to write the book Human Flourishing just before COVID and then the world went mad. Since then, the world has gotten even madder and many people are clutching their smartphones, wringing their hands, managing their anxiety, or merely existing. What does it mean to flourish and what do people, relationships, and professions look like and feel like when they flourish?


    In this book, authors Andrew Briggs and Michael J. Reiss and painter Roger Wagner weave together a beautiful picture of the material and immaterial, the concrete and the spiritual. Included here is a reproduction of Roger Wagner's painting It Keeps Me Seeking. The original painting hangs in The Auckland Project Faith Museum: https://aucklandproject.org/attraction/faith-museum/


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    46 mins
  • When A Christian Insists On A Spiritual Demilitarized Zone
    Jun 11 2025
    Derek Dearden from the UK and Perry Marshall discuss how to hold deeply held beliefs while also making space for people with widely differing views.

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    45 mins
  • Life doesn’t merely obey rules. Life CREATES them.
    May 9 2025
    Tim Howard interviews me and Sy Garte about our new paper with Stuart Kauffman, The Reasonable Ineffectiveness of Mathematics in the Biological Sciences. Join us for a fascinating discussion about a new revolution underfoot in biology:

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    50 mins
  • New Theory & Practice for Cancer – Azra Raza and Michael Levin
    Apr 2 2025

    Two of my favorite scientists, Michael Levin and Azra Raza with Aastha Jain Simes, put their heads together in this provocative and touching interview. Azra describes the technology of our new company PredictRX that detects cancer at Stage Negative One.


    We do this with a “Stentinel,” (starts at 15 minutes in) a stent with electronic sensors that is implanted in the arm and sense Polyploid Giant Cancer Cells (PGCCs) within 18 days of appearing in a patient.


    Azra begins with an unusual definition of cancer and offers a detailed theory of Hybrid Cells based on her 35 years treating patients. This is a heart-gripping conversation. “If you find a single giant cell in a patient who’s in remission, a 2nd cancer is inevitable.”

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    59 mins