• Episode 65: Caitlyn Stenerson talks about her surprising call to small church ministry
    Mar 26 2025

    Caitlyn Stenerson, Pastor of Knox Church in Minneapolis, MN, joins Kaitlyn on this episode to talk about how she discerned a call to pastor in a small church, why she resisted at first, what she feared the most, and how much she loves it. Pull up a chair and hang out with Kaitlyn and Caitlyn!

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    57 mins
  • Episode 64: Michael Thornton talks about discipleship and making space for transformation
    Mar 17 2025

    Michael Thornton, Pastor of Discipleship from First Pres Colorado Springs, joins Kaitlyn on this episode to talk about how he approaches discipleship.

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    53 mins
  • Episode 63: Rob Laukoter talks about pastoring through wilderness seasons and celebrating God's surprising provision
    Feb 26 2025

    Rob Laukoter from Peoples Church in West Virginia joins us on this episode to talk about leading his church (and himself) through a wilderness season full of discernment, pruning, and transformation. He shares the unbelievable story of how the church moved into a new building after years without a home. And he talks about how the new Cultivating Flourishing Congregations process is helping them take confident steps toward the future!

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    1 hr and 1 min
  • Episode 62: Laura Crosby talks church hurt, secure identity, and intentional rhythms
    Nov 27 2024

    Laura Crosby joins us on this episode to talk about how her journey through church hurt helped her develop a secure identity in Christ and led her to a ministry life full of unexpected adventures. Laura loves connecting people and has a heart for mentoring.

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    1 hr and 3 mins
  • Episode 60: Tim & Jan Devine talk co-pastoring intentionally and ending well
    Nov 6 2024

    Tim & Jan Devine are recently retired co-pastors from Living Hope Church in Endicott, NY (and currently serving as the Flourishing Church Facilitators for Cornerstone Presbytery. They join us on this episode to talk about how they navigated co-pastoring, discerning their calls, and the succession planning process.

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    53 mins
  • Episode 59: Steve Clark talks pastoral identity and navigating disrupted plans
    Sep 11 2024

    Steve Clark, assistant pastor in Bonita Springs, Florida, joins us for an honest and important conversation about the fear of "failing" as a pastor, the importance of developing a pastoral identity, and how to respond when your plans aren't working out.

    Resources mentioned in the podcast:

    Assessments:

    • Working Genius (workinggenius.com)
    • Leadership Circle Profile (flourishmovement.org)

    Spiritual Direction: Email info@flourishmovement.org to connect to a Spiritual Director

    Books:

    • The Imperfect Pastor by Zack Eswine
    • The Art of Pastoring by David Hansen
    • Rising Strong & Dare to Lead by Brene Brown
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    1 hr and 9 mins
  • Episode 58: Chelsea Ham talks parenting and pastoring in real life
    Aug 28 2024

    Chelsea Ham, solo pastor of Dinuba Presbyterian Church in Dinuba, CA, joins Tim and Kaitlyn for an honest conversation about growing up as a PK, the seminary class she wishes she could teach on pastoring while parenting toddlers, and Amy Grant.

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    56 mins
  • Episode 57: Petey Crowder talks calling and team culture in real life
    Aug 14 2024

    Petey Crowder, senior pastor of Christ Presbyterian Church in Edina, MN joins us for a conversation about discerning pastoral calling and building collaborative leadership team culture.

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    57 mins