In this conversational episode, Dr. Jae sits down with her husband, Jeremiah, to discuss how many men—particularly Black men—approach marriage, whether they consciously realize it or not.

Together, they explore four dominant frameworks men often use to imagine what marriage is for and how they expect a wife to show up within it. These frameworks aren’t prescriptions or endorsements—they’re only lenses through their observations.

Don’t forget - if you have a Secret Story you want to share with me like the one I share in this episode, then I invite you to⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠drop your truth⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for the next Secret Story episode!

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Literature & Links:

• ⁠⁠⁠The DC Relationship Education Center⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• ⁠The Kind of Love That Black Women Make: Female Capital & Cost⁠ [blog]
• ⁠Female Capital & Cost⁠ [pod]

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In this conversational episode, Dr. Jae is joined by her husband, Jeremiah, for a candid, thoughtful dialogue about a tension that shows up in many heterosexual relationships: both men and women resisting being overworked, undervalued, and reduced to labor in marriage and partnership.

Together, they unpack how men and women often name the same exhaustion—but for very different reasons—and how unexamined expectations around provision, domestic labor, lifestyle, and longevity can strain or support relationships over time.

Don’t forget - if you have a Secret Story you want to share with me like the one I share in this episode, then I invite you to⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠drop your truth⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for the next Secret Story episode!

HOW I CAN HELP YOU: Interested in our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠services⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠?

Choose your option⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

HOW YOU CAN HELP ME: Contribute to my dissertation by⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sharing your romantic experiences.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Submissions:

• Submit your⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Secret Story⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Book your⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Awareness + Secret Story Session⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Submit your⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Safe Story⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Literature & Links:

• ⁠⁠⁠The DC Relationship Education Center⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Connect with Me:

• Website:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.joyicerobinson.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Instagram:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠@joyicerobinson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
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CORRECTION: I referred to the wrong study in this episode. The study I meant to refer to was a study of never-been married Black men sharing what encourages and discourages toward marriage by ⁠Tera Hurt⁠.

In this conversational episode, Dr. Jae sits down with her husband, Jeremiah, for an honest, nuanced discussion on men’s perceived loss of freedom after marriage—specifically around friendships with other men.

Drawing from empirical research, lived experience, and seven years of cultivating intentional Black male community, this episode explores why many married men believe marriage limits their social lives, how some wives respond to male friendships with suspicion or indifference, and what both partners may be missing when male connection is treated as optional rather than essential.

Don’t forget - if you have a Secret Story you want to share with me like the one I share in this episode, then I invite you to⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠drop your truth⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for the next Secret Story episode!

HOW I CAN HELP YOU: Interested in our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠services⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠?

Choose your option⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

HOW YOU CAN HELP ME: Contribute to my dissertation by⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sharing your romantic experiences.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Submissions:

• Submit your⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Secret Story⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Book your⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Awareness + Secret Story Session⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Submit your⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Safe Story⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Literature & Links:

• ⁠⁠The DC Relationship Education Center⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Connect with Me:

• Website:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.joyicerobinson.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Instagram:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠@joyicerobinson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Patreon:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Become a Patron⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Work With Me: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Book a Session⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠