“I was just wondering what it was like working with Prince Philip on environmental issues? Because from what I know - and this is a bit controversial - he had some very apparent contradictions in his love for conservation. For example, the year that he became the president of WWF was the same year that he was in Ranthambore, a forest that I love so deeply, hunting an eight foot tiger with local Rajasthani maharajas. How did those things balance out?”

What do a 24 year-old filmmaker from India and a 67 year-old British theologian who worked closely with the late Prince Philip think is the best way to save the planet? In this episode of Forces of Nature. Martin Palmer and Malaika Vaz sit down for a debate about HRH The Duke of Edinburgh’s approach to conservation, hunting and the role of religion in protecting the environment.

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“Every president, every prime minister, when you look back, you feel a bit frustrated because you understand that you could have done a lot more. That's a normal sense, a normal frustration that every president and every prime minister has. And looking back, I am very proud. But I could have done a lot more.”

What words of wisdom does a former president who has been both praised and criticised for his approach to the environment have to share with the next generation? In this episode, 18-year-old Zimbabwean climate activist Nkosi Nyathi gets the chance to pick the brains of Nobel Peace Prize winner Juan Manuel Santos, who was president of Colombia from 2010 to 2018 and was credited for his efforts to bring the country’s 52-year-long civil war to an end. Together, they discuss what Mr Santos learned, and his regrets, from his time in office; the dilemmas faced by developing countries wanting to prosper without harming the planet; and how even presidents with little interest in sustainability can change their minds given the right persuasion.

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Check out Mr Santos’s peace-building non-profit, Compaz Foundation: https://fundacioncompaz.org/en/home-english/

Listen to Mr Santos on the Voices for Peace and Conservation podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKxzoIxia9w

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“Civil disobedience all through history has had a big impact. If it's non-violent but determined, it has a big impact and it has changed things. People say, how can you be against the law? I say, if the law is not right, of course you have to denounce it. That was the case for slavery. It was the case when women didn't have the right to vote. It was the case in South Africa with apartheid.”

It’s not every day you get to tune in to a conversation between a member of the Belgian royal family and a 22-year-old indigenous reindeer herder from Sweden! In this episode, Princess Esméralda of Belgium and Saami activist Martina Fjällberg discuss the human costs of climate change, from language and culture to mental health; indigenous rights in conservation; and Princess Esméralda’s eye-opening experience of being arrested for her environmental activism.

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