This week we talk about an update to the 2022 case of John-Paul Miller, an (allegedly) sketchy pastor whose wife was found to have committed suicide. However, new evidence and a new indictment indicate that there was much more going on behind the scenes in this marriage

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

In this quick informational mini, we discuss the laws in Colorado (and other states) requiring law enforcement to make an arrest in any domestic violence call, as well as the criteria they must use to determine who should be taken in. We talk about the difference between primary aggressor at the scene and predominant aggressor in the relationship, and how these criteria should have been applied in the Petito case and how, if they had, we believe Gabby Petito would still be alive

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

What do you do with a killer in your family? Our special guest gives us the inside scoop! In 2020, the murder of 24-year-old Alyssa Burkett shocked Carrollton, Texas. While her ex-boyfriend, Andrew Beard, pulled the trigger, he wasn't acting alone. This episode explores the role of Holly Ann Elkins, the fiancée who spent months meticulously destroying Alyssa’s life. From planting drugs and guns in the victim's car to purchasing the (very offensive!) makeup used in Beard’s disguise, we examine how Elkins acted as the puppet master, goading her partner into committing the unthinkable.

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.