What if the purpose of life is simply to fully live it?

In Episode 7 of Spirit Club, Jordan Tilley and Kody Hansen explore presence, impermanence, openness, transformation, and what it means to create heaven on earth—right here, right now.

Kody shares an experience returning to the baseball field where he spent some of the happiest days of his childhood, sparking a conversation about nostalgia, the places that hold our memories, and learning to appreciate beautiful moments without desperately trying to hold onto them.

From there, the conversation flows into surrender and Michael Singer’s The Untethered Soul, the Tao Te Ching, contentment versus expansion, peaks and valleys, death and rebirth, and becoming “anti-fragile”—allowing the difficulties of life to actually transform us.

Jordan shares a principle that has reshaped the way he approaches everything from sales to pickleball to life itself: amateurs compete; professionals create. Rather than seeing life as a zero-sum game of winners and losers, what happens when we approach it as an ongoing act of creation?

They also explore Jesus, radical forgiveness, the sacrament as a ritual of continual rebirth, and the possibility that heaven isn’t merely somewhere we hope to arrive someday—but something available to experience and create now through love, peace, joy, forgiveness, connection, and play.

Maybe life is less about holding on, figuring everything out, or perfecting the performance—and more about getting into the river, surrendering to the current, and fully participating in the experience.

In this episode:

• Revisiting the places that shaped us
• Why beautiful moments don’t need to last forever
• Surrender, openness, and going with the flow
• Contentment vs. the desire for growth
• Peaks, valleys, death, and spiritual rebirth
• Becoming anti-fragile through adversity
• Why “amateurs compete; professionals create”
• Creativity as a spiritual practice
• Letting go of rigid identities
• Jesus, forgiveness, and creating heaven on earth
• Love, peace, joy, and play
• Why the greatest performance may be to stop performing