What if blockchain, not AI, is the biggest disruption in finance?
In this episode of High Stakes, host Alex Nwaka sits down with Michael Tannenbaum, CEO of Figure, to explore how blockchain is reshaping capital markets from the ground up. With a background spanning SoFi and Brex, Michael shares how his real-world fintech experience led him to double down on real-world assets, tokenization, and the massive opportunity behind blockchain-powered infrastructure. From regulatory clarity to capital markets modernization, this conversation is a masterclass for anyone thinking seriously about institutional blockchain adoption.
Tune in to hear why the next wave of fintech won't be AI-first, it'll be blockchain-native.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
• Capital markets innovation depends on mastering tech, finance, and regulation
• Figure embeds origination and blockchain into one seamless ecosystem
• Blockchain enables faster, cheaper, and more transparent mortgage processes
• Standardization reduces third-party risk and accelerates capital deployment
• Trust in blockchain doesn’t eliminate the need for institutional trust
• Tokenization ≠ Liquidity, distribution infrastructure still matters
• Real-world assets are blockchain’s most valuable use case
• Figure has traded over $60B in tokenized private credit assets
• AI and blockchain together can make compliance auditable and immutable
• Future infrastructure must scale for billions of autonomous AI agents
BEST MOMENTS
00:02:04. “I worked my way up through SoFi and ultimately ran the mortgage business.”
00:03:01. “If I'm doing this... there's probably a better way.”
00:05:24. “We took a 45-day, $12,000 process and reduced it to five days and $1,000.”
00:07:12. “Trust is something that is earned in drips and lost by the bucketful.”
00:10:51. “If something like Figure existed for Brex at the time, we would have been very interested.”
00:13:17. “Those loans could have existed in a database… but that database was wrong.”
00:21:00. “Tokenization doesn’t necessarily mean liquidity.”
00:33:04. “I didn’t appreciate the scale of the opportunity for blockchain beyond payments.”
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