This is a listener requested episode, and it is a WILD one. In the '90s, Vancouver sold itself as progressive, scenic, and safe. Meanwhile, women were disappearing at a rate that should have set the city on fire.

This episode dives headfirst into the Robert Pickton pig farm murders and the long stretch of time where everyone who should’ve been paying attention very aggressively did not. We’re talking about a killer who didn’t hide, didn’t rush, and didn’t need to, because the system around him made it painfully clear exactly whose lives were considered disposable.

Kat and Holly break down how Pickton’s farm became a revolving door of vulnerable women, biker parties, drugs, and law enforcement indifference. From the chaos of Piggy’s Palace to the methodical horror of what happened once women were isolated, this case isn’t just about one man. It’s about how misogyny, racism, and classism stacked the deck so hard that dozens of women never stood a chance.

There’s no clean narrative here. No satisfying justice arc. Just years of ignored warnings, dismissed survivors, and families left screaming into the void while authorities debated whether these women were worth the effort.

This isn’t a comfort-listen.

It’s a reckoning.

All true crime. No chill.

Quotes referenced from source material:

On the Farm by Stevie Cameron

Victims Associated With the Robert Pickton Case

(Names commonly cited by investigators, journalists, and inquiries. Not all cases resulted in charges or convictions, but these women existed and mattered.)

Sereena Abotsway

Mona Lee Wilson

Andrea Joesbury

Marnie Frey

Georgina Papin

Brenda Wolfe

Andrea “Dee Dee” Wicks

Helen Hallmark

Sarah de Vries

Ramona Montour

Tanya Holyk

Sherry Irving

Patricia Johnson

Diane Rock

Dawn Crey

Debbie Miller

Patricia Cook

Louise Bleau

Brenda Mahoney

Shelley Hrehoresen

Nancy Clark

Judy Versnel

Jane Doe

and additional unidentified or disputed victims linked through DNA, remains, or disappearance patterns

(The true number is unknown. Pickton himself claimed 49.)

Kat and Holly dig into how Colby Vinson was pushed out of his own child’s life through escalating control, false narratives, and a custody fight that stopped being about a child and became about winning. The girls get fired up about the effects gatekeeping has on children, and how it can ruin lives.

They break down how ordinary parenting was reframed as a threat, how access became leverage, and how resentment curdled into something far more dangerous.

The case shows what happens when gatekeeping turns into a weapon, when control matters more than consequences, and when no one steps in before the damage is permanent.

This episode takes a swan dive into the lies, manipulation, and unchecked audacity of Pamela Hupp — a woman who somehow kept surviving tragedy while everyone around her didn’t.

Kat and Holly dig in together, peeling back every version of Pamela’s story, from the “concerned friend” act to the insurance policies, the conveniently timed deaths, and the confidence that let her keep rewriting reality in real time. We trace how her narratives shifted, why investigators missed what was right in front of them, and how charm and certainty bought her far more time than she ever should’ve had.

This isn’t a surface-level recap. It’s a deep dive into how a story can be controlled, how systems hesitate, and how one person exploited both — over and over again. Together, we follow the trail until it finally collapses under its own weight.

If you like your true crime thorough, sharp, and completely allergic to excuses, buckle up — this one gets ugly fast.