Pete Deneen is back, and this conversation goes in a lot of directions—in the best way.

We talk about what El Niño actually is, what it could mean for the West, and why Pete thinks it’s time to have a serious conversation about Lake Powell and the Glen Canyon Dam. Pete also shares stories from his decade in the Coast Guard, including one wild night intercepting a major cocaine shipment.

But the conversation keeps coming back to something bigger: community. Pete tells me how a trail run club grew into a monthly gathering, a way to support local nonprofits, and a group that shows up to protect the places it loves.

We also get into purpose, belonging, and the simple practice of journaling. Pete’s advice before my wedding was to take 20 minutes and write. I tried a past, present, future prompt—and it might be a good place for you to start, too.

Check out Pete's writing

It’s Time to Drain Lake Powell https://gizmodo.com/its-time-to-drain-lake-powell-1848003413

A decade of climate whiplash in Ojai — https://issuu.com/ojaivisitorsguide/docs/ojai_magazine_winter_2024/106

Undeveloped Land Is Not “Vacant” — https://petedeneen.world/undeveloped-land-is-not-vacant/

Chapters

13:07 What El Niño is

47:39 Purpose, belonging, and community

56:23 How a run club became something bigger

1:03:01 Pete’s Coast Guard stories

1:12:00 Lake Powell and the Glen Canyon Dam

1:26:30 Putting people to work restoring the West

1:30:20 Journaling before a big life moment

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