Lucie is a former CFO who now works closely with CEOs and senior leaders when they’re at important crossroads, in business and in life.

We talk about how our definition of success changes over time, what it means to listen to yourself when the path you’re on no longer feels right, and the courage it takes to change direction with intention rather than pressure.

It’s an honest, grounding conversation about clarity, growth, and trusting what comes next.

In this episode of Unboxing Impact, I sit down with Bobby Kamani, an entrepreneur whose work spans hospitality, travel, and building brands rooted in experience and people.

Our conversation moves through intention, disruption, and the responsibility that comes with creating and scaling ideas. We talk about how easily humans disrupt the systems they touch, often without meaning to, and why long-term thinking matters when decisions affect more than just the bottom line.

It’s an energising, honest discussion about value, leadership, and what it really takes to build responsibly in the real world.