In this new episode of The Angry Ops Guy Podcast, Mike sits down with Eric Cook - one of the most respected operators in the WSI network and a longtime friend who’s been in the agency trenches longer than most. The conversation spans leadership, burnout, travel overload, crisis management, and what it really takes to sustain a high-stakes agency when the internet never sleeps. From banking-sector pressure to tech outages, client trust, and the hidden cost of always being "on", this one is grounded, honest, and packed with hard-earned perspective.

And because it’s still Mike and Eric, the seriousness never goes uninterrupted for long. Somewhere between life lessons and Ops wisdom, the conversation detours into man-child humour, near-miss disasters, and the kind of friendship you only earn after years of mutual respect, bad decisions, and surviving agency life together.

Part 2 goes deeper into what happens after you’re forced to step away from agency life.

Jack Porter-Smith talks honestly about rebuilding career 2.0, why autopilot is dangerous, and how he’s refocusing on advisory work, writing, and peer support without sacrificing his health. It’s reflective, grounded, and useful for anyone trying to figure out what comes next once the Ops grind finally stops.

And because it’s Mike and Jack, none of that seriousness survives for long. The conversation keeps getting hijacked by the dumbest man-child friendship moments imaginable, including a hospital voice note that goes wildly off-script and a legendary client call nearly detonated by one perfectly timed instant message.

He’s finally here! Jack Porter-Smith crawls out of the Ops grave for his first-ever guest spot on The Angry Ops Guy Podcast. After a full-blown health collapse and walking away from his multi-million dollar agency, he joins Mike for a raw, darkly funny breakdown of burnout, survival, and what happens when your inbox starts feeling like a weapon. The two swap war stories from over a decade in the trenches, get brutally honest about leadership and ego, and somehow still find time to roast each other to hell and back. It’s half therapy, half roast and somehow still useful if you’re trying not to lose your mind in digital marketing Ops.

Stick around for Part 1’s big finale: a little Photoshop, a buffet, and the moment Mike officially becomes a WSI legend (for all the wrong reasons).