Episodes

  • Part 5: Back to the Future
    Aug 9 2024
    Hosts Bronwin Parks and Elinor Svoboda take the podcast on location and meet up in present day Calgary (2024) and it was a more visceral experience than either one of them expected. They tour their elementary school, explore old artifacts and finally answer the question of the podcast: What if they would have been friends from a more impressionable age in 1988? Resources: It Gets Better by Dan Savage (book - youth) - https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/309525/it-gets-better-by-dan-savage/9780452297616 One In Every Crowd by Ivan Coyote (book - youth) - https://www.amazon.ca/One-Every-Crowd-Ivan-Coyote/dp/1551524597 Gender Born, Gender Made: Raising Healthy Gender-Nonconforming Children (book - adult) – Diane Ehrensaft https://a.co/d/g8BYE5H The Family Acceptance Project (organization) - https://familyproject.sfsu.edu/ How to talk (and listen) to transgender people by Jackson Bird (video) - https://youtu.be/HbQZ7jAvgoI?feature=shared
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    25 mins
  • Part 4: The Question Box
    Jul 26 2024
    Grade 4 brings the onset of puberty, burgeoning crushes and big questions. Host Bronwin Parks and Elinor Svoboda discuss how an encounter with ‘the question box’ in health class changed Bronwin's middle childhood. This leads the hosts to investigate how the Alberta curriculum approached homosexuality in 1988. Spoiler: It hasn’t really changed 30 years later. This episode includes interviews with: Associate Professor Dr. Tonya Callahan from University of Calgary, and licensed clinical psychologist Dr. Kate Thomson. Resources: Homophobia in Hallways by Dr. Tonya Callaghan (book - adult) -https://utorontopress.com/9781487522674/homophobia-in-the-hallways/ Teaching About Gender Diversity by Susan Woolley & Lee Airton (book - adult) - https://www.teachingaboutgenderdiversity.com/ Queer There And Everywhere by Sarah Prager (book - kids) - https://sarahprager.com/queerthere/ Amaze (website - organization) - https://amaze.org/ How To Talk And Listen To Transgender People (video) - https://youtu.be/HbQZ7jAvgoI?feature=shared
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    23 mins
  • Part 3: "Tomboy"
    Jul 12 2024
    Hosts Bronwin Parks and Elinor Svoboda explore the complexity of gender roles and social expectations in adolescence, with a focus on the impact of patriarchy on gender-nonconforming behaviours. Clinical psychologist Dr. Kate Thomson helps them navigate identity during middle childhood, as they reflect on changing social constructs around friends who were boys, despite their identifying as “tomboys”. Along with special guests including Elinor's son and classmates from grade school, the hosts emphasize the need for safe spaces where kids can express themselves without fear of judgment or shame. They also highlight the significance of proper vocabulary and supportive environments in helping kids honour each other's identities. Bronwin and Elinor are left to wonder: Did anyone feel like they belonged? Resources: Tegan & Sara Foundation (organization) - https://www.teganandsarafoundation.org/ It Gets Better by Dan Savage (book - youth) https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/309525/it-gets-better-by-dan-savage/9780452297616 Seeing Gender by Iris Gottlieb (book - adult) - https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/43885853-seeing-gender Podcasts on Racism in Canada: Canadaland: The Commons - https://www.canadaland.com/shows/commons/ CanadaLANDBACK - https://www.canadaland.com/shows/canadalandback/ Sandy and Nora talk politics - https://sandyandnora.com/ Polite Conversations - https://www.patreon.com/nicemangos Leader Talks with Anne-Marie Pham (CCDI) - https://ccdi.ca/podcast/
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    25 mins
  • Part 2: Hometown Olympic Fever
    Jun 28 2024
    Alberta has always been known as one of the most conservative provinces in Canada. Imagine growing up as a queer kid in Calgary in the 1980s...there were definitely some challenges. In this episode of Late in 88, hosts Bronwin Parks and Elinor Svoboda explore the impact that Olympic fever had on their friends when the Winter Olympic games came to town in 1988. Olympic tales are told between childhood classmates, sporting events are remembered (looking at you ski ballet), and historian Kevin Allen joins Bronwin and Elinor to add some historical context. Find out more about Kevin Allen and his work: https://calgarygayhistory.ca/author/calgarygayhistory/ Follow Kevin Allen on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/yycgayhistory/ Episode Resources: Sporting Gender: The history, science, and stories of transgender and intersex athletes Our Past Matters: Stories of Gay Calgary (book - adult) – Kevin Allen Do we need to rethink gendered sports? (article & video - kids) Calgary Outlink (Organization) Calgary Gay History Project (web resource) Camp Firefly (Alberta 2SLGTBQIA+ youth camp) For a complete list of 2SLGBTQIA+ organizations and resources visit: https://latein88.com/resources/
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    20 mins
  • Part 1: What If We Were Friends?
    Jun 28 2024
    How much can you remember from your childhood? Say, when you were eight years old? It may be a bit fuzzy, but this is where we meet the hosts of Late in 88, Bronwin Parks and Elinor Svoboda. They travel back to grade four; a time when they both identified as tomboys but never really understood where they belonged. Through discussing their shared challenges surrounding gender identity and queerness, they arrive at the question: what if they would have been friends? Would it have made a difference? They take turns recalling the pertinent moments of these formative years and invite old classmates, Kate, Amanda, Shalini, and Dave, to join the conversation. Episode Resources: My Kid is Gay (organisation) The Gender Creative Child: Pathways for Nurturing and Supporting Children Who Live Outside Gender Boxes (book - adult) Born This Way (book - kids) A Quick & Easy Guide to Queer & Trans Identities (book - kids) SOGI Film and Video resources Brené Brown on Empathy (video) For a complete list of 2SLGBTQIA+ organizations and resources visit: https://latein88.com/resources/
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    22 mins
  • Trailer: Introducing Late in 88
    Jun 19 2024
    Introducing Late in ‘88: a new podcast hosted by Bronwin Parks and Elinor Svoboda. The two grade school classmates will share their experiences of growing up queer and gender non-conforming in Calgary, Alberta 1988, at a time when there wasn't language to describe identities that were fringe and undefinable. By shining a light on their middle childhood, Bronwin and Elinor explore the impact of historical context and the gift of contemporary language that allows more freedom of self expression. The series will welcome many special guests and experts including gradeschool classmates, professors, doctors, and experts in their fields. Bronwin Parks is a Calgary city kid who grew up to be a rancher, rodeo cowboi, and the founder of the award-winning Feisty Creative, a top-notch creative agency for the music, film, television, and digital media industries. Through Feisty, Bronwin has worked with brands, award shows, and all of Canada’s major music labels. Since coming out as queer in 1996 at the age of 16 and later in 2020 as non-binary, Bronwin has fought hard to be a much-needed and outspoken champion for diversity and equity. Their dedication in fighting for systemic change has led them to serve on several music and creative industry boards, pushing DEI initiatives, creating inclusive spaces, and bringing more opportunities for 2SLGBTQIA+ people. Elinor Svoboda is an award-winning filmmaker, sound designer, educator, with over 20 years of experience. Her work has been nominated for both Grammy and Juno Awards, shortlisted for the Berlin Film Festival, and premiered at the Fantasia Film Festival. Notably, her 2012 short Documentary Tegan and Sara: INDIA was broadcast and distributed internationally via Warner Brothers Music. Alongside her directorial and sound work, Elinor works as a dedicated educator, having previously served as a sessional professor at Sheridan College and an instructor at York University. She has also been a faculty member of the Training in Power Academy of Meditation and Healing for the last 20 years. Having spent several years in Toronto, Elinor recently returned to her home province of Alberta, where she is developing several television and feature narrative projects under her company, Ellefire Media.
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    2 mins