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Ep 313 The Fall of EF Battlecade - John Perretti

John Perretti, Battlecade: Extreme Fighting creator/matchmaker & former
UFC matchmaker.
Deep dive into the promotion's last event via Extreme Fighting 4 (Des Moines, March 28, 1997):
It featured Olympic gold medalists
Kenny Monday & Kevin Jackson on one card, along with epic clashes like Paul Jones vs.Eric Paulson and a mid-show power outage, we talk about Gracie hesitancy on certain matchups (including near-misses with big money offers), Bas Rutten bad blood, and John's take on grappler-to-striker limits.
Raw, firsthand history from the source.

0:00 MMA history podcast intro
0:32 Joey Venti’s guest introduction
0:57 interview start
2:19 Extreme fighting 4 in Iowa
3:20 budget for Extreme fighting 4
4:09 Ralph Gracie vs Eugenio Tadeu rumor
6:28 allegedly matchmaking Brazilians to lose fights
7:40 training Igor Zinoviev to fight Royce Gracie
9:47 Bas Rutten altercation with Rickson Gracie
11:55 Roster of fighters at Extreme Fighting 4
12:50 power outage during event
14:14 Allan Goes vs Todd Bjornethun
18:14 Gary Myers vs Tommy Glanville
19:38 Paul Jones vs Erik Paulson
21:22 Kevin Jackson vs John Lober
22:37 creating modern MMA
25:12 Extreme fighting changing how you viewed the sport
26:13 thoughts on Joe Moreira
30:06 John Lober personal issues
32:12 Matt Hume vs Pat Miletich
35:44 financial issues coming into event
37:18 Kenny Monday vs John Lewis
43:47 John Donehue reffing all 4 events
44:43 Maurice Smith vs Kazunari Murakami
51:24 altercation with Ken Shamrock in lobby
56:18 drug issues at the Lions den
58:13 matchmaking fights in the UFC
1:02:05 realizing Extreme fighting is finished
1:05:15 Igor Zinoviev injured out of extreme fighting
1:05:38 receiving a call to work for the UFC
1:10:02 Art Davie’s letter to congress to ban MMA
1:11:41 plugs/ promotions
1:12:42 interview wrap up
1:24:19 outro/ closing thoughts

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Ep 312 Andy Anderson Federal Prison

Andy Anderson was once a Texas entrepreneur owning topless clubs and the notorious All Nude Steakhouse (supplying ring girls for UFC events), Andy's life took a turn
- he's now serving a federal sentence for drug conspiracy (30 years) and money laundering (20 years), though he insists he's innocent and was railroaded by false testimony. This audio-only deep dive covers fixed fights, mafia run-ins in Ukraine's IFC event, Japanese afterparties gone wrong, and the grit that built MMA.
No holds barred - just raw history from a man who lived it.

0:00 MMA history podcast intro

0:32 Joey Venti’s guest introduction

2:35 interview start

2:52 helping move UFC 12 after cancellation

6:49 attending UFC 1 as a spectator

7:42 becoming involved with the UFC

8:26 fighting NHB in Mexico

9:21 interactions with Julian Sanchez

10:06 relationship with Art Davie

11:27 Art Davie and Bob Meyrowitz relationship

13:14 meeting Buddy Albin

14:27 relationship with Charlie Anzalone

15:04 Buddy Albin being tough to work with

17:25 Andy Anderson vs John Hess

21:00 owning several topless bars

22:09 Cornering Anthony Macias for fixed fight

25:16 Pat smith attacked in Elevator by Tito Ortiz

27:06 Remco Pardoel alleged Marco Ruas of greasing

28:41 Marco Ruas calling out the Gracie’s

29:44 Bas Rutten calling out Rickson Gracie

30:20 Japanese promotions hand picking fights

32:22 Tank Abbott Hard Rock Cafe incident

35:40 interactions with Joe Son and Kimo Leopoldo

38:12 Ken Shamrock dropping women off a balcony

40:04 Art Davie split with Bob Meyrowitz

42:51 living with Frank Shamrock

44:23 living with Scott Bessac

46:01 reason for being locked up

49:36 initial offering for sentencing

51:53 locked up with Tiger King

53:30 amount of time being served

56:45 current living situation

1:00:51 IFC Ukraine Debut controversy

1:08:50 Ron Van Clief

1:10:10 interactions with Leon Spinks

1:11:09 reason for the UFC logo at IFC event

1:12:21 Stuck in Ukraine after IFC event

1:15:48 Bas Rutten Paul Varelans incident

1:19:23 escaping to Paris from Ukraine

1:21:05 the local mafia wanting the tapes

1:22:06 Buddy Albin grab and go plan

1:22:52 Igor Vovchanchyn reputation at IFC event

1:23:52 Art Davie not involved in the IFC

1:25:40 Anthony Macias vs Sakuraba

1:28:30 John McCarthys relationship with Bob Meyrowitz

1:29:30 John Perretti coming to the UFC

1:31:19 Bob Meyrowitz thoughts on John Perretti

1:36:25 early UFC matchmaking

1:37:16 UFC not allowing John Perretti to purchase

1:41:06 Bob Meyrowitz interactions with Oprah Winfrey

1:41:53 fondest memories of the UFC

1:42:38 UFC changing rules because of mark Coleman

1:44:28 Andy Anderson outro

1:45:56 outro/ closing thoughts

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Ep 311 Ron Jhun BEFORE the UFC

Ron Jhun is Hawaii’s only 50 fight club member and had over 40 bouts prior to competing in the UFC.

Ron Jhun is an early pioneer and a legend among the Hawaiian MMA community; we share some funny insights and stories in this very hard to come by interview

Ep 311 Ron Jhun BEFORE the UFC

0:00 MMA history podcast intro
0:32 Joey Venti’s guest introduction
0:53 interview start
1:24 growing up with a boxing pedigree
2:53 training prior to first fight
4:35 learning Jiu jitsu from VHS tapes
5:18 training at Jesus is lord
6:38 reason for David Pa’aluhi retiring
11:39 Ron Jhun vs Eddy Millis
17:01 Ron Jhun vs Eugene Jackson
20:31 Ron Jhun vs Paul Cutts
22:37 Ron Jhun vs James Zikic
24:05 Relson Gracie pushback on the Island
27:21 Ron Jhun vs James Zikic (rematch)
29:24 Ron Jhun vs Marco De Silva
30:43 payout for tournament fights
33:04 winning Super Brawl 14 tournament
36:41 hearing about Scott Coker early on
37:18 running into John Hackleman
39:08 possible relations to KJ Noons
39:45 offered Yuki Sasaki bout in Japan
41:48 experience first time in Japan
43:50 Ron Jhun vs Yuki Sasaki
46:43 interactions with the Yakuza
48:28 Ron Jhun vs Kim Mason
51:11 Drug issues on the Island
53:10 Ron Jhun vs Erik Paulson
59:12 relationship with Erik Paulson
1:02:21 Josh Barnett and Erik Paulson story
1:04:14 Ron Jhun vs Jason Von Flue
1:05:42 promoting on the Underground forums
1:08:27 meeting Sean Shelby and Tom Brady
1:10:41 Ron Jhun vs JT Taylor
1:12:08 Ron Jhun vs Brian Sleeman
1:13:05 Ron Jhun vs Dave Strasser
1:14:08 Ron Jhun vs Joe Stevenson
1:15:31 Ron Jhun vs Pete Spratt
1:17:33 WFA 2001
1:18:58 rolling with John Lewis
1:20:31 self promoting to Blue Belt
1:22:39 John Lewis current life
1:25:01 Ron Jhun current life
1:28:31 football in Hawaii
1:31:30 plugs/ promotions
1:32:12 experience with Cabbage Correira
1:33:44 Ron Jhun vs Jermaine Andre
1:35:28 sponsored by Tapout
1:36:21 Ron Jhun vs Mandatorily Suda
1:39:07 Ron Jhun vs Stephan Potvin
1:40:00 Ron Jhun vs Shonie Carter
1:41:03 Ron Jhun vs Dennis Hallman
1:42:31 Ron Jhun vs Mike Penalber
1:43:06 interview wrap up
1:44:48 outro/ closing thoughts

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