Today I'm talking to poet and novelist Sophie Robinson. Sophie's debut novel Prairie Oyster came out last week. Buy it from your local bookshop, or from Bookshop.org who donate over 80% of their profit margin to independent bookshops.

As well as being a writer, Sophie runs Devotion, a radical and inclusive writing workshop for people working at all levels.

We talk about the concept of vulnerability, both in writing and in life. We also explore addiction, panic attacks, radical acceptance & surrender, chronic illness, becoming an accidental knitting influencer and ignoring the male gaze (but not the male gays).

Read Sophie's poem Art in America here.

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It's Josie Long! Josie is a stand-up comedian, writer and filmmaker. She has toured her live shows all over the world. She co-founded the charity Arts Emergency, helping young people get a fair start in the Arts and Humanities. Join us for a chat about Josie's struggles with output and productivity. We also talk about writing as an incantation, imbuing your life with the spirit of creativity, hallucinogenic revelations and how art teaches us what we don't know about ourselves.

Buy Josie's brilliant book here!

Learn more about Arts Emergency here!

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Listen up troublemakers! From January 12th you're invited to join us for a refreshing, rejuvenating CREATIVE COURSE. Six weeks of prompts, activities and ideas designed to kickstart your practice for 2026. Episodes will drop every Monday as usual, but rather than an interview with an esteemed guest (we'll get back to that in season 3), you'll receive a short audio workshop for you to engage with at your own leisure. Light on homework, hopefully heavy on inspiration.

THIS COURSE IS ONLY AVAILABLE TO PATREON SUBSCRIBERS. So head over to Patreon anytime before January and join as a paid member (not available to free subscribers). You can sign up for as little as £2.50 a month (you can cancel easily any time). You'll have access to the course for as long as you're a subscriber, and you'll also have access to the Patreon community page if you want to share your experience with other listeners. https://www.patreon.com/c/MakingTrouble

Can't wait to see what happens!

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