Business owners often spend decades building wealth inside their business - but what happens when it’s time to step away?

In this episode of the Meaning Business Podcast, Bruce and Peter sit down with Jamie Nemtsas from Wattle Partners to discuss retirement planning, business exits, superannuation, wealth creation, and why many business owners may never truly retire.

Jamie shares practical advice on knowing your number, building assets outside your business, preparing years in advance for a sale, and navigating the emotional side of life after business ownership.

He also discusses key ideas from his book The Golden Years - a practical guide to planning for, transitioning into, and enjoying a financially secure retirement.

If you’re a business owner thinking about your future, this is an episode you don’t want to miss.

The Meaning Business Podcast is your go-to show for insights on buying, growing and selling businesses.

Hosted by business advisors Bruce Coudrey and Peter Spinda, each episode explores real-world strategies, lessons and opportunities to help business owners and entrepreneurs succeed.

If you’re thinking about buying, selling or growing a business, the team at Benchmark Business Sales & Advisory can help guide you through the process.

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Most business owners know they’ll exit one day… but very few actually plan for it. In this episode, we’re joined by Kerry Boulton to break down the biggest exit mistakes business owners make, and why so many leave it too late.

From building and selling her own business to advising owners for decades, Kerry shares practical insights on exit planning, succession, business value, and what it really takes to prepare for life beyond your business.

If you own a business, this is a conversation worth having sooner rather than later.

The Meaning Business Podcast is your go-to show for insights on buying, growing and selling businesses.

Hosted by business advisors Bruce Coudrey and Peter Spinda, each episode explores real-world strategies, lessons and opportunities to help business owners and entrepreneurs succeed.

If you’re thinking about buying, selling or growing a business, the team at Benchmark Business Sales & Advisory can help guide you through the process.

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https://meaningbusinesspodcast.buzzsprout.com/

https://benchmarkbusinessadvisory.com.au/meaning-business-podcast/

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Having a business plan isn’t optional if you want to succeed - it’s critical. In this episode, Bruce Coudrey and Peter Spinda break down why business plans matter, how to write one without overcomplicating it, and how it gives you clarity, direction, and control in your business.

If you want to build a stronger, more profitable business and stay on track, this episode is for you.

The Meaning Business Podcast is your go-to show for insights on buying, growing and selling businesses.

Hosted by business advisors Bruce Coudrey and Peter Spinda, each episode explores real-world strategies, lessons and opportunities to help business owners and entrepreneurs succeed.

If you’re thinking about buying, selling or growing a business, the team at Benchmark Business Sales & Advisory can help guide you through the process.

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https://meaningbusinesspodcast.buzzsprout.com/

https://benchmarkbusinessadvisory.com.au/meaning-business-podcast/

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Do you really need to be an entrepreneur to succeed in business?

In this episode Bruce & Peter challenge the common belief that entrepreneurship is the only path to success. They break down what success actually looks like in business, the different ways you can build wealth, and why chasing the “entrepreneur” label might be holding you back.

Whether you’re running your own business, working within one, or looking to grow and eventually exit, this episode will shift how you think about success and where real opportunities come from.

The Meaning Business Podcast is your go-to show for insights on buying, growing and selling businesses.

Hosted by business advisors Bruce Coudrey and Peter Spinda, each episode explores real-world strategies, lessons and opportunities to help business owners and entrepreneurs succeed.

If you’re thinking about buying, selling or growing a business, the team at Benchmark Business Sales & Advisory can help guide you through the process.

🌐 Learn more:

https://meaningbusinesspodcast.buzzsprout.com/

https://benchmarkbusinessadvisory.com.au/meaning-business-podcast/

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What do you do when your business isn't worth enough to cover what you owe? Most owners assume they're stuck - but insolvency expert Hank de Jonge returns and joins Bruce and Peter to explain why that's rarely true.

In this episode, Hank walks through a real case study where a business listed at $500K was only worth $250K, and how a structured plan allowed the owner to sell, settle debts the right way, and move forward without personal financial fallout. He breaks down the often misunderstood difference between selling a business and winding up a company, explains when and how creditor negotiations work, and introduces the Small Business Restructure - a government tool with a 75% success rate that many business owners have never heard of.

If you're carrying debt, unsure of your options, or just want to understand what a "whitewash" really means in business - this one's for you.

The Meaning Business Podcast is your go-to show for insights on buying, growing and selling businesses.

Hosted by business advisors Bruce Coudrey and Peter Spinda, each episode explores real-world strategies, lessons and opportunities to help business owners and entrepreneurs succeed.

If you’re thinking about buying, selling or growing a business, the team at Benchmark Business Sales & Advisory can help guide you through the process.

🌐 Learn more:

https://meaningbusinesspodcast.buzzsprout.com/

https://benchmarkbusinessadvisory.com.au/meaning-business-podcast/

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Your business might be thriving right now, but what happens to your home, your assets, and your family if something goes wrong tomorrow? A lost contract, an ACCC recall, a workplace incident, or even a firebombed neighbour could change everything overnight.

Hank de Jonge from de Jong Reed returns to break down the corporate structures most business owners have never heard of. Separating your trading entity from your asset holding entity, securing personal loans to your business properly, and getting shareholder agreements right before you need them.

This isn't about insolvency. It's about never getting there in the first place.

With Australian insolvency at record highs and the ATO more aggressive than ever, there's never been a better time to get your structure right.

First consultation with de Jong Reed is free, no obligation. Visit dejongreed.com.au

The Meaning Business Podcast is your go-to show for insights on buying, growing and selling businesses.

Hosted by business advisors Bruce Coudrey and Peter Spinda, each episode explores real-world strategies, lessons and opportunities to help business owners and entrepreneurs succeed.

If you’re thinking about buying, selling or growing a business, the team at Benchmark Business Sales & Advisory can help guide you through the process.

🌐 Learn more:

https://meaningbusinesspodcast.buzzsprout.com/

https://benchmarkbusinessadvisory.com.au/meaning-business-podcast/

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPzLrKgyTXHv-fTbI8xTVSe2LRYYmVqis

Most people looking to buy a business are searching for the perfect opportunity - strong profits, smooth operations, and no obvious problems. But what if the real opportunity lies in the opposite?

In this episode of The Meaning Business Podcast, Bruce and Peter explore the argument for buying what Bruce jokingly calls a “sh*tty business.” Not one that’s completely broken, but one that has clear upside and room for improvement.

They discuss why buying a business that’s already running perfectly often leaves little room to create additional value, while businesses with untapped potential can offer significant opportunities for growth, profit, and future exit value.

If you’re considering buying, growing, or selling a business, this episode will challenge the way you look at opportunity.

Would you rather buy a business that’s already perfect… or one you can improve?

The Meaning Business Podcast is your go-to show for insights on buying, growing and selling businesses.

Hosted by business advisors Bruce Coudrey and Peter Spinda, each episode explores real-world strategies, lessons and opportunities to help business owners and entrepreneurs succeed.

If you’re thinking about buying, selling or growing a business, the team at Benchmark Business Sales & Advisory can help guide you through the process.

🌐 Learn more:

https://meaningbusinesspodcast.buzzsprout.com/

https://benchmarkbusinessadvisory.com.au/meaning-business-podcast/

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPzLrKgyTXHv-fTbI8xTVSe2LRYYmVqis

Burnout doesn’t usually arrive out of nowhere - it creeps in through overcommitment, blurred boundaries, and trying to run at full speed for too long.

In this episode Bruce & Peter unpack the paradox of burnout: you can love what you do, feel driven and passionate, and still end up exhausted, cranky, and running on fumes. They break down the real warning signs (including the biggest one: personality change), why burnout can come from both struggle and success, and how to “sharpen the axe” so you stay effective instead of burning out.

You’ll also get a practical framework to manage burnout before it manages you - recognising it early, setting workload boundaries and recovery rules, systemising your business (not just relying on resilience), and building sustainable habits that keep you performing long-term.

If you’ve been feeling tired, reactive, or like you’re just pushing through… this episode is your reset.

The Meaning Business Podcast is your go-to show for insights on buying, growing and selling businesses.

Hosted by business advisors Bruce Coudrey and Peter Spinda, each episode explores real-world strategies, lessons and opportunities to help business owners and entrepreneurs succeed.

If you’re thinking about buying, selling or growing a business, the team at Benchmark Business Sales & Advisory can help guide you through the process.

🌐 Learn more:

https://meaningbusinesspodcast.buzzsprout.com/

https://benchmarkbusinessadvisory.com.au/meaning-business-podcast/

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPzLrKgyTXHv-fTbI8xTVSe2LRYYmVqis