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Outside the Bell Curve

Outside the Bell Curve

Written by: Heather Hiccups
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For the forever curious and the ones chasing wild ideas. Outside the Bell Curve is a podcast for those who just can’t seem to color inside the lines. I’m Heather, and each week I chat with friends, creatives, and fascinating humans I meet on the road — folks with cool jobs, wild stories, and a habit of choosing the unexpected. From bold pivots to one-way tickets, from a small town in Texas to a residency at the Kennedy Center, or a drive from the UK to Mongolia, I’m full of questions for the people who’ve lived it. Let’s explore what it looks like to live outside the bell curve.Heather Hiccups Social Sciences
Episodes
  • God, Sex & Rich People… Purity Ring to NYC with Mattie Jo
    Nov 26 2025

    We’ve all been there, trying to outgrow the version of ourselves we were raised to be. The “good girl,” the rule follower, the one who doesn’t question anything… until suddenly you do.

    Mattie Jo Cowsert is a pastor’s kid turned shameless oversharer, actor, author of God, Sex & Rich People, and truly the definition of “I’ll do as I please.”

    From rebuilding her entire identity, to choosing a life that feels good, and staying out of situations that shrink you.


    We get into:

    • How the queer community and the diversity of New York City cracked open everything she believed about “purity culture”

    • Why “Fuckboy Monsters” was not only a chapter in her book, but a full era

    • What it really feels like to rebuild your identity in your 20s (and 30s)

    • Writing God, Sex & Rich People and developing her viral pilot

    • Why she refuses a safe 9–5 in favor of alignment, joy, and simply believing in herself.

    Get ready to rethink the “rules” you grew up with, laugh at her overshares, and maybe feel a little braver about pursuing your passion projects.


    ⁠⁠Follow Mattie Jo - https://www.instagram.com/mattiejocowsert/

    ⁠⁠Follow Heather- ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/⁠⁠

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    40 mins
  • Delusional Positivity, Ridiculous Job Apps & the Art of Just Starting — with Vandie
    Nov 12 2025

    Vandie is bold and not to mention, savvy. She went from tech to essentially the “fun-planer” at a dream company, has lived in 26 cities, co-founded a space for connection after college, and chose to be child-free in a very permanent way.

    We talk about “delusional positivity,” radical self-trust, quitting the checklist life, and showing up authentically (even when you’re still figuring it out).

    This Dutch Bros’ “donut girl” redefines what “having it all” actually means.

    🎙 Topics:

    • The audacity of starting before you’re ready

    • Building inclusive community spaces

    • Life after being laid off

    • Choosing the child-free life

    • Authenticity > perfection



      Follow Vandie - https://www.instagram.com/vandieboo/

      Follow Heather- ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/⁠

      Follow the show on Substack- ⁠⁠https://travelinghiccups.substack.com/⁠



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    45 mins
  • Ghost Hunting 101 with Spirit Chasers: Apparitions, EMF & Evidence. A Halloween Special
    Oct 29 2025

    What happens when the ghosts get to know you?

    This Halloween, we’re with Spirit Chasers UK, the nonprofit ghost-hunting team making the paranormal accessible, affordable, and full of heart. David and Marie share their wildest encounters: a singing child, flying tables, a haunted cottage that sent them running, and explain why laughter might be the strongest tool in any investigation.

    A story about trust, energy, and finding community in the unknown.


    Learn about Spirit Chasers - https://www.spiritchasersparanormal.uk/

    ⁠⁠Follow Heather- ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/⁠⁠

    ⁠⁠Follow the show on Substack- ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://travelinghiccups.substack.com/⁠⁠

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    35 mins
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