Ever wonder if passive real estate investing actually works when your properties are over 1,500 miles away? Or if “turnkey rentals” are really as hands-off as people claim?

In this episode, I sit down with a real investor and client who shares how he went from 3 rental properties to 7 and tripled his wealth while living in California and investing in out of state.

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📽️ What’s in this episode:
This is a real-world passive real estate investing case study, not theory.

You’ll hear how this investor started with a small inheritance, why he chose turnkey rental properties, and how he scaled his portfolio over time without managing tenants, fixing toilets, or turning real estate into a second job.

We talk through what actually made the biggest difference in his results, including market selection, property management, long-term thinking, and why investing out of state was the smartest move for his lifestyle and goals.

Listen until the end because he shares the mindset shift that allowed him to keep scaling instead of getting stuck at just a few properties.

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I flipped 20 houses out of state and made decent money...but I'll never do it again. Between contractor nightmares, holding costs, and market timing stress, flipping became a full-time job with inconsistent income.

In this episode, I'm sharing 3 STEPS of what I'd do differently if I were starting over today.

You'll Learn:

• The 5 biggest mistakes I made flipping 20 houses long-distance
• Why fix-and-flip is the HARDEST way to build wealth in real estate
• The hidden costs that ate into my profits
• Why rental properties beat flipping for long-term wealth
• 3 Steps you can do differently today

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Overwhelmed by the idea of investing in real estate while working full-time? In this episode, I'm breaking down the exact 5-step system I've used to help over 2,000 busy professionals buy rental properties without quitting their jobs, spending endless hours researching, or needing a real estate degree.

If you've been stuck in analysis paralysis or convinced you don't have enough money to start, this episode gives you the clarity and simple plan to take action today.

What You'll Learn:

• How to calculate your Freedom Number so you know exactly how many rentals you actually need (one client thought she needed 20 properties but only needed 4)
• Why buying rental properties where you live is usually a costly mistake and which markets actually produce consistent cash flow
• + MORE

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Stop losing 30-40% of your rental property profits to capital gains tax. In this episode, 1031 exchange expert Dave Foster from Exeter 1031 Exchange reveals how to legally defer taxes on property sales—and how to pass wealth to your heirs without anyone paying the deferred tax.

I've personally used 1031 exchanges three times to defer over $150K in taxes. Dave breaks down the critical timelines, reinvestment requirements, and the "swap till you drop" strategy that lets you build wealth tax-free for life.

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Should you pay off your rental properties or use that cash to buy MORE? This is THE question I get from clients constantly—especially Dave Ramsey followers who are terrified of debt.

In this episode, I'm breaking down:

• My personal Real Estate Snowball strategy (how I'm paying off 10+ properties in 7-8 years)
• The "lazy equity" trap that's costing investors millions
• Real math: How 1 paid-off property can become 4 properties worth $1M in 10 years
• When to be in the "buy, buy, buy" phase vs the "pay off" phase
• Why your tenants are literally buying you free houses

Whether you have 1 rental or 50, this episode will change how you think about rental property debt.

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THE NEW 50-YEAR MORTGAGE EXPLAINED

The 50-year mortgage is suddenly everywhere, and if you're wondering whether this is a brilliant opportunity or a dangerous trap for real estate investors, this episode breaks it all down. I sit down with creative investment lender Aaron Chapman to discuss what the 50-year mortgage actually means for rental property investors, how it could change cash flow and leverage strategies, and why waiting for it to launch could be the biggest mistake you make in 2025.

WHAT YOU'LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE
You'll discover why a 59% swing in the US dollar's buying power in just 11 months means long-term mortgages are actually working in your favor, not against you.

CIRCUIT BREAKERS THAT PROTECT YOUR INVESTMENT
If you're hesitant about out-of-state real estate investing because you can't drive by the property, this episode addresses that concern head-on. We break down all the circuit breakers that actually protect your investment: title companies, professional inspections, appraisals, insurance, property management companies, and legal contracts. The reality is that real estate investing has more protections than most other asset classes, including stocks and bonds you can't "see" or "touch" either.

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RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE

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THE QUESTION EVERY OUT OF STATE INVESTOR ASKS 🤔

A client asked me how to know if an out of state property is actually good and how to trust the area when you've never been there. If you're investing remotely, this is the exact question keeping you stuck in analysis paralysis. I'm breaking down the entire system I've used to help over 2000 clients successfully buy and close on rental properties in markets they've never visited. This isn't theory, this is a proven process that eliminates risk and removes the guesswork.

THE THREE PILLARS THAT ELIMINATE RISK 🎯

I reveal the exact framework I use to vet markets, teams, and properties so you can invest confidently from anywhere. We're talking about how to pick markets with high rental demand, how to find property managers with real time data you can't get from Google, and why working with vetted renovation teams changes everything. I also share why some areas look perfect online but are actually one street away from disaster, and how to avoid that trap completely. This is the training wheels system that lets you take action without creating another full time job for yourself.

WHY SMART INVESTORS STOP DOING IT ALONE 💡

The biggest mistake I see is investors trying to build their own teams from scratch in markets they don't know. You're competing against people who've been doing this for a decade with established relationships and proven systems. I'm handing you the shortcut. If you're serious about building a rental portfolio without the overwhelm, this episode shows you exactly how.

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0:00 Introduction: Breaking the Money Trauma Cycle

3:15 The Parenting Pressure Cooker 7:30 Changing Money Conversations with Kids

12:45 Teaching Kids to Think Like Creators 16:20 Real Estate and Real Wealth

20:35 How My Kids Bought Properties Before 18

25:10 Breaking Your Own Money Trauma

29:40 Action Steps This Week

TEACHING KIDS ABOUT WEALTH AND REAL ESTATE

Most parents unknowingly pass down money trauma 😰 In this Passively Rich with Rentals episode, I share how to break that cycle. Learn to shift conversations that transform your family's financial future with tools school never teaches.

BREAKING NEGATIVE MONEY CONVERSATIONS

How we talk about money matters 💰 Instead of saying we can't afford that, I share responses teaching problem solving and financial literacy without shame. Help kids brainstorm solutions and teach money creation through creative thinking.

REAL ESTATE FOR GENERATIONAL WEALTH

I helped three kids purchase turnkey rentals before 18 using savings 🏠 My daughter studying art owns a cash flowing rental while tenants pay her mortgage. This provides financial security regardless of career path.

FIVE PROFIT CENTERS IN RENTALS

Real estate creates wealth five ways 📈 Cash flow, appreciation, equity paydown, tax benefits, and inflation hedging. These teach children wealth building requires patience and strategy.

SHIFT FROM SCARCITY TO ABUNDANCE

Seeing money make money shifts your mindset 😓 Money stops being lazy and works while you sleep. This changes parenting and financial modeling kids absorb.

TEACHING KIDS ENTREPRENEURSHIP

Children watch parent money behaviors 👀 Teaching lemonade stands, saving money, and wants versus needs prepares them for decisions. All my children understand multiple income streams.

WHAT REALLY MATTERS

Teaching kids real estate, multiple incomes, and making money work matters more than career choice 🎓 Teachers owning rentals have more freedom than doctors trading time for money.

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