In this episode, Ben sits down with Pastor Jeremy Dunn of Allison Gap First Church of God to discuss a reality many pastors face but few openly talk about—the desire to walk away from ministry. Jeremy shares his personal journey through discouragement, ministry fatigue, slow growth, leadership pressures, and the loneliness that can come when you begin to question whether you can keep going.

Together, Ben and Jeremy explore the danger of measuring faithfulness by visible results, the emotional toll of ministry in difficult seasons, and the subtle ways burnout can take root in a pastor's life. Jeremy also shares how God used an unexpected season outside his church office to restore his soul, renew his love for Scripture, and remind him that ministry is sustained by intimacy with Christ, not endless activity.

If you've ever felt exhausted, discouraged, isolated, or ready to quit, this conversation offers practical encouragement and a reminder that faithfulness is often forged in the hardest seasons of ministry.

In Episode 2, Ben sits down with Pastor Mitch Burch of the Buffalo First Church of God in Buffalo, West Virginia, for an honest conversation about the call to ministry and what it takes to stay faithful to it over time. Drawing from over 50 years of ministry, Mitch shares his personal journey into the call, the pressures that can cause pastors to question it, and how God uses both seasons of fruitfulness and deep personal tragedy to anchor and sustain His servants.

This episode addresses the tension many pastors feel but rarely talk about, measuring success, facing discouragement, and navigating doubt, while pointing back to what truly matters: faithfulness, intimacy with Christ, and trusting God with the results.

This episode lays the foundation for Pastor On Point. Ben Liston shares why this podcast exists, what makes it different, and why staying faithful to the call of ministry matters more than anything else. This is not about ideal ministry, it’s about real pastors navigating real pressure and learning how to remain clear, grounded, and faithful in the work God has entrusted to them.