Episodes

  • Trial
    Oct 16 2025

    In this episode, Shielagh takes listeners into the courtroom that should have been, explaining how her case against Hyde Park Baptist Church was set to unfold before the church lied to avoid trial. She breaks down what “damages” mean in civil law, how a bifurcated trial works, and what evidence the jury would have heard: testimony from experts, witnesses, and even Jonathan Weaver himself, whose recorded statements revealed deep contradictions and years of deceit.

    As the episode unfolds, Shielagh exposes the church’s efforts to suppress key testimony, Dan Ecker's attempt to twist her fear into blame, and the hypocrisy of Pete Nargi who apparently leaked confidential documents while publicly insisting he had nothing to apologize for. Then, just two business days before trial, the church filed a notice of intent to declare bankruptcy, not because they were bankrupt, but to cancel the trial and keep their misconduct from ever being heard in open court.

    Out of that betrayal came clarity. When the trial was stolen, Shielagh and her siblings turned loss into action - launching the press conference, the protest, and this podcast itself.

    The episode closes with the courthouse steps statement she delivered on the very day the trial should have begun - a declaration that distilled everything this podcast has been building toward: the truth that power tried to silence, the courage to tell it anyway, and the refusal to let lies have the last word.

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    33 mins
  • Insurance and Responsibility
    Oct 2 2025

    In this episode of Perverted Justice, Shielagh Clark revisits the tension between truth and image that defined her litigation against Hyde Park Baptist Church. While the church and attorneys treated the case as a tug-of-war over money, (which is the language the law speaks) Shielagh emphasizes that for her, litigation was always about truth—forcing hidden realities into the light so the past could be redeemed.

    The episode explores the complexities of the church’s insurance coverage. Shielagh explains how abuse claims spanned multiple policies, why her attorneys considered a bad-faith claim against Church Mutual, and how the revelation that the church had indeed offered the full $300,000 policy limit from the start reshaped the legal strategy. She shares the stress of resisting settlement pressure, including a hospitalization for anxiety, and reflects candidly on her fleeting hope of leveraging a trial judgment to transform the church property into a space of healing for survivors.

    From there, the discussion widens to the moral responsibility of church leadership. Shielagh draws on her own experience as a business owner navigating insurance litigation and her study of the epistemic condition in moral philosophy. She explains how concepts of foreseeability in law align with Christian ethics, highlighting the failure of Hyde Park’s board to fulfill their duty of care. She contrasts their immediate decision in 2005 to protect the abuser with severance pay while punishing her with expulsion—an act of twisted moral clarity that revealed a bad theology.

    The episode blends personal memories—helping raise the steeple as a child, later imagining its removal as an act of poetic justice—with theological reflection. Shielagh critiques the church’s posture as one that turned a symbol of faith into a gesture of contempt toward “the least of these.” She reminds listeners that both law and faith demand responsibility where ignorance is willful or avoidable, and that Hyde Park’s leaders had every opportunity to know and act differently.

    Ultimately, Episode 20 underscores the contrast between legal maneuvering for money and the deeper call to radical honesty, compassion, and accountability.

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    26 mins
  • Loose Ends and The Adult Survivors Act
    Sep 18 2025

    In this episode, Shielagh Clark closes out the summer of 2022—a season marked by both courageous steps and devastating setbacks. She reflects on the fallout from her attempt to be heard by the church, including the scolding she endured from her own attorney, whose words echoed the very dynamics of control and silencing she thought she had escaped. What was framed as a “confrontation” became another weapon used against her, showing how institutions and even advocates can twist survival into liability.

    The episode also explores how the deposition process unexpectedly unearthed proof of the very truth Shielagh had been trying to tell all along, and how another survivor’s story confirmed that she was not alone in being dismissed and shut out by church leaders. Finally, she shares how the passage of New York’s Adult Survivors Act opened a new legal path, merging with her existing case and pushing it closer to trial.

    This chapter of Perverted Justice reveals the cost of standing up for oneself when even allies resist—and underscores the persistence of truth, even when institutions try to bury it Time Period Covered: August 2022-January 2023 ASA Complaint will be linked soon

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    30 mins
  • The Cost of Image-Based Sexual Violence
    Aug 28 2025

    Trigger Warning: This episode contains discussion of image-based sexual violence, including the non-consensual taking of photos, the spreading of rumors about “naked pictures” that never existed and the devastating emotional and psychological consequences of such violations. Listeners will encounter descriptions of trauma, victim-blaming, and institutional betrayal. Please care for yourself as you listen.

    Summary: In this episode, Shielagh confronts one of the most painful and misunderstood chapters in her story: the existence of degrading photographs taken against her will, the lies that followed, and the devastating way church leaders weaponized those images to discredit her.

    The narrative begins with Shielagh’s attempt to clear up a misunderstanding with Pastor Jim Mitchell, believing it would open lines of communication. Instead, she was silenced, treated as a threat, and ultimately had the police called on her. This painful rejection revealed a deeper problem: years of rumors and false narratives built on mischaracterizations of her, fueled by a single misunderstanding that metastasized into institutional mistrust.

    Shielagh courageously addresses head-on the false claim that “naked photos” of her existed, explaining that while she was forced into degrading photos, no such explicit images were ever taken. Research on image-based sexual violence underscores what she has lived: heightened risks of PTSD, depression, shame, harassment, and social isolation. Rather than recognizing the images as evidence of her victimization, church leaders framed her as immoral, locking her into a distorted reputation that continues to affect her decades later.

    By revisiting events from 2005 through 2022, Shielagh exposes how lies and silence within church leadership repeatedly compounded harm, substituting rumor for truth and preserving institutional self-protection over justice. Through her telling, she illuminates how profoundly a community’s refusal to acknowledge truth can weaponize power against a survivor.

    This episode is both testimony and warning: when integrity is replaced by silence and gossip, victims remain trapped in falsehoods, while institutions escape accountability. Time Period Covered: July 2022 and some history for context

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    36 mins
  • Fabrications and False Hope
    Jul 31 2025

    Episode 17: Fabrications and False Hope

    In this emotionally raw episode, Shielagh sits down with Dale and Alex, once trusted figures, in a vulnerable attempt to reach understanding, accountability, and shared pursuit of truth. She opens her heart about the deep harm their behavior during the lawsuit has caused, expressing a sincere desire for healing rooted in honesty and love.

    But instead of meeting her in that place of courageous truth-telling, Dale and Alex respond with platitudes, evasions, and - most devastating of all - a complete fabrication of the conversation that follows. What was meant to be a step toward reconciliation becomes another layer of betrayal, as they twist her words to avoid taking responsibility and continue protecting their image at the cost of integrity.

    This episode is a sobering reminder of how even well-staged conversations can be used to manipulate, deflect, and deny. And yet, through it all, Shielagh holds fast to the power of truth and the belief that real love does not flinch at what is hard. Youtube video: https://youtu.be/KgY-Q0BxOPs?si=0RE9k6Xqa4t-uG46

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    42 mins
  • When the Truth Breaks Through
    Jul 17 2025

    When the Truth Breaks Through

    In this episode, Shielagh reflects on a powerful dream she had following a breakthrough therapy session. In the dream, her home began flooding as water poured through a failed patch in the roof - a vivid picture of what it feels like when truth can no longer be contained. The patch, she realized, symbolized the years of lies used to cover up her abuse.

    She also recounts a tense visit to her abuser’s current church, where his pastor’s aggressive defensiveness and shocking admissions made her even more keenly aware just how unsafe churches can be for children and how difficult it remains for survivors to be seen as anything other than threats when they push for reform and accountability.

    The episode ends with a redemptive turn: Shielagh’s decision to attend a concert at Hyde Park Baptist Church and the unexpected comfort she found when the Slaughters welcomed her without hesitation, and Tom Slaughter, in particular, stepped in as protector the way her own father failed to do in 2005.

    This episode is about the difference between people who patch over the truth and those who hold the door open when it finally breaks through - as well as the healing that can come when someone simply shows up and stays.

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    29 mins
  • The Power of Trust and the Weight of Doubt
    Jul 17 2025

    In this episode, Shielagh recounts one of the most pivotal therapy sessions of her journey, occurring just after the deeply unsettling meeting between Richard Murray and the Greens. Still reeling from the manipulation and disorientation that meeting produced, she brings raw honesty into the therapy room - and into this episode - wrestling with deep self-doubt, despair, and a lifetime of spiritual conditioning that taught her to question her own experiences before ever questioning authority.

    Through journal entries and introspection, listeners witness the inner conflict of someone who has spent years blaming herself for harm she didn’t cause. Shielagh explores the dangerous theological messages that formed her, like the overuse or imbalanced use of Jeremiah 17:9, and begins to unravel how spiritual language has been weaponized to justify abuse and silence the voices of those who dare to speak truth.

    Her therapist helps reframe this trauma by introducing concepts like locus of control, emphasizing how systems of spiritual abuse distort a victim’s perception of responsibility. Shielagh’s realization that fear may explain - but not excuse - the church's betrayal marks a turning point. She reflects on the impossibly high expectations placed on victims to reconcile without repentance, and the hypocrisy of demanding trust from those the church harmed while never accounting for the harm it wielded when it had the power.

    Woven throughout are powerful moments of clarity, including the impact of K.J. Ramsey’s The Lord Is My Courage, which arrives providentially and helps Shielagh articulate the grief and rage of being abandoned by shepherds who claimed to act in God’s name. Through Ramsey’s words and her own experience, Shielagh boldly confronts the institutional betrayal that masquerades as Christian love but fails to live the gospel it preaches.

    She closes the episode by naming the difference between false redemption that squashes truth and the real healing that comes through confession, exposure, and justice. Shielagh points listeners toward a deeper truth: that goodness is not found in silence or niceness, but in the fierce, unwavering light of truth-telling and love. Book Mentioned: The Lord is My Courage by KJ Ramsey. I guess it should be said that, like many titles I recommend, I found this book very helpful while I also do not agree with it entirely.

    Time Period Covered: July 2022

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    23 mins
  • Institutional Betrayal
    Jun 19 2025

    In this pivotal episode, we begin our deep dive into the summer of 2022 — a season marked by fresh wounds inflicted by an institution that continues to prioritize its reputation over its people. Shielagh walks listeners through a psychological evaluation prepared for trial, exposing how Hyde Park Baptist Church’s response to her abuse matched every known facet of institutional betrayal: failure to protect, cover-ups, misinformation, and punishing the victim.

    Drawing from expert analysis and deeply personal reflections, Shielagh details the devastating impact of being retraumatized — not by the original abuse alone, but by the church's ongoing refusal to respond with honesty, vulnerability, and care. We explore how DARVO (Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender) plays out not just on an individual level, but systemically, and how scapegoating a former secretary became a chilling modern-day reenactment of the Day of Atonement — a deflection of guilt at the cost of yet another innocent woman.

    This episode confronts hard truths, including the heartbreak of being re-cast as the enemy simply for seeking justice, and the emotional toll of watching others turn away in confusion or disbelief. As always, we name these patterns not just to expose them, but to create space for something more honest, courageous, and redemptive to rise in their place. Video referenced: https://youtu.be/BddWs7_EA7o Time period covered: Summer 2022

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    35 mins