• 140. Michael Manzi - How to Build Sales Systems that Scale
    May 25 2026

    Most commercial leaders think they’ve got a pipeline problem when they’ve actually got a systems diagnosis problem. This conversation with Michael Manzi gets into the difference between copying tactics and actually understanding what drives performance. There’s a massive difference.

    We talked about why most sales playbooks fail when they’re transplanted into a new business, how leaders accidentally drive top performers out of the door, and the one variable Mike found that doubled a sales team’s win rate in 30 days. If you run a revenue function, there’s a lot in here worth stealing.

    In this episode

    A lot of leaders confuse tools with strategy. That’s where things start breaking.

    • How to separate a real playbook from recycled tactics
    • How to identify the single variable actually driving revenue
    • How to stop over-managing your top performers
    • How to remove excuses before diagnosing performance issues
    • How to create buy-in before asking a team to change
    Episode highlights
    • [03:59] Mike admits he drove a top performer out of the business by overcorrecting into rigid management
    • [05:00] The idea every commercial leader should steal: make deposits before making demands
    • [09:04] Why most “playbooks” are just random tools duct-taped together from previous jobs
    • [13:22] The surprisingly brilliant curling analogy for leadership and performance management
    • [17:22] The data exercise that uncovered the one variable driving an 87% win rate
    • [20:00] How one strategic change doubled sales effectiveness in 30 days
    • [28:03] “On your forehead it says: I can fire you” and why great managers never forget it
    Links and resources
    • OfficialSalesTips.com
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/MikeManzi7

    If you enjoyed this one, follow the show, leave a review, and share it with someone carrying a revenue number on their back right now. These conversations are for people trying to build something real, not just sound clever in a board meeting.

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    30 mins
  • 139. David Graddy - How to spot leaders before they emerge
    Apr 20 2026

    Most people wait for permission to lead. That’s the mistake.

    This conversation with David Graddy is a reminder that leadership isn’t a promotion. It’s a pattern of behaviour. And if you’re not already doing it, a new title won’t suddenly fix that. In fact, it’ll expose it.

    We get into what actually gets noticed inside large organisations, where people trying to “step up” go wrong, and how to develop leadership capability without overstepping and damaging trust. If you’re responsible for performance, this is the difference between spotting future leaders and missing them entirely.

    In this episode If you want to build leaders before they have the title, do this:

    • Look for attitude and output first. Potential without delivery is noise
    • Give small, contained opportunities to test leadership in the real world
    • Watch how people behave in teams, not how they talk about leadership
    • Set boundaries clearly. Overstepping kills trust faster than failure
    • Develop the fundamentals early: communication, integrity, problem solving

    Episode highlights [02:30] Leadership starts before the title. Most people just don’t act like it [05:04] The uncomfortable truth: being promoted exposes poor leadership fast [06:11] Why aspiring leaders fail by overstepping their authority [08:20] Trust is built by operating right at the edge of your permission [12:05] The risk leaders create by over-controlling decision making [15:00] How to actually spot future leaders in a commercial team [16:52] Why good people leave: lack of opportunity, not lack of pay [18:29] “Leadership is easy until you meet people” [21:20] There’s no such thing as business ethics. Just ethics [27:03] The one line that sums it up: lead where you are

    Links and resources

    • dgraddy2@cox.net
    • www.linkedin.com/in/david-graddy
    • https://www.johncmaxwellgroup.com/davidgraddy/

    If this made you rethink how you spot and build leaders, follow the show and share it with someone responsible for building a team, not just hitting a number. And if you haven’t already, leave a review. It helps more than you think.

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    29 mins
  • 138. Reed Nyffeler - How to build exponential leaders that sell
    Apr 13 2026

    Most leaders think growth comes from doing more. Hiring more people. Adding more activity. More meetings, more pipeline, more noise.

    Reed Nyffeler has spent two decades proving the opposite. He scaled a security franchise from one location to 400 and $250 million in revenue. The lever wasn’t effort. It was multiplication. This conversation is about the difference between teams that add, teams that divide, and the rare leaders who genuinely multiply the people around them.

    We talk about selecting the right leaders, putting them in the right environment, leading them in ways that actually work for them, and then doing it all with ruthless consistency. Simple ideas. Hard to execute. But when they work, the growth curve changes completely.

    In this episode

    This conversation is about the mechanics of leadership that multiplies.

    • How to identify people who will multiply your effort rather than divide it
    • Why “right person, right environment” matters more than raw capability
    • How to adapt your leadership style to how someone actually learns
    • Why correcting people isn’t enough unless you also direct them
    • How consistency is the real engine behind exponential leadership
    Episode highlights

    02:07 The difference between additive leadership and multiplicative leadership.

    06:44 The “unlucky salesperson” myth and why cycles expose real performance.

    10:49 Reed’s first question to any new direct report: “Who was the best leader you’ve had?”

    15:34 The leadership mistake most managers make: correcting people without directing them.

    17:30 Why consistency, not brilliance, is the real multiplier in leadership.

    23:32 Why purpose must be transcendent. Leadership cannot be about the leader.

    28:01 Reed’s billboard message to the world: help one person, then learn how to help a thousand.

    Links and resources
    • Transform Through Purpose — Reed Nyffeler
    • Lead Exponential — Reed Nyffeler
    • https://www.linkedin.com/in/reednyffeler/

    If you found this conversation useful, follow the show, leave a rating, and share it with someone running a team or a P&L. Conversations like this only work if the right people hear them.

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    31 mins
  • 137. Gee Ranasinha - What leaders get wrong about marketing
    Apr 6 2026

    Most marketing isn’t broken because people aren’t trying hard enough. It’s broken because nobody actually understands what marketing is supposed to do.

    This conversation with Gee Ranasinha is a proper teardown of the nonsense. Too many businesses confuse marketing with activity. Brochures, websites, campaigns, “leads”. None of that matters if it doesn’t create pipeline. And most of it doesn’t, because the fundamentals are wrong from the start.

    We get into why marketing is so often misdefined at board level, why sales and marketing talk past each other, and why trust, not tactics, is what actually moves deals forward. If you’ve ever sat in a meeting wondering why all this effort isn’t turning into revenue, this will hit home.

    In this episode If you want marketing that actually works, do this:

    • Start with the right prompt. If your positioning and message are wrong, everything downstream fails
    • Hold marketing accountable for pipeline, not activity or MQLs
    • Get your marketers talking to customers. Constantly. No exceptions
    • Use real customer language, not internal jargon, to shape your messaging
    • Treat price as perception, not just a number on a spreadsheet

    Episode highlights [02:55] Why you cannot be both head of sales and marketing and do either well [05:40] The real problem: businesses don’t understand what marketing actually is [11:49] Pipeline vs leads and why most marketing metrics are useless [13:54] “How we do it is nobody’s business” – but results are [23:05] Why marketers who don’t speak to customers are flying blind [33:47] The uncomfortable truth: people don’t pick up the phone anymore [36:27] What you are actually selling in every deal: trust [40:48] Price isn’t a number. It’s a feeling [42:41] The line every operator should remember: what you tolerate becomes your standard

    Links and resources

    https://kexino.com/gee-ranasinha/

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/ranasinha/?originalSubdomain=fr

    If this episode sharpened your thinking, follow the show and share it with someone responsible for revenue, not just activity. And if you haven’t already, leave a review. It makes a bigger difference than you think.

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    46 mins
  • 136. Felix Riley - How leaders create momentum in uncertain times
    Mar 30 2026

    Most deals don’t die because your product is wrong. They die because the person on the other side is scared of losing.

    This conversation with Felix Riley is a reminder that we are not operating in a rational world. We are operating in a psychological one. Risk aversion, learned helplessness, confirmation bias. These aren’t abstract ideas. They’re the hidden forces shaping every commercial decision. If you don’t surface them, you’re negotiating in the dark.

    We get into what’s really going on in the buyer’s head, why doing nothing feels safer than change, and why the best operators stop selling products and start uncovering what people actually want. Not what they say. What they really want.

    In this episode If you want to win better deals, do this:

    • Surface every fear in the room. If it’s not said, it’s still there and it will kill your deal
    • Reframe risk. Buyers fixate on certain loss versus uncertain gain. Your job is to challenge that framing
    • Ask “what do you really want?” until you get past the surface answer
    • Lean into uncomfortable truths instead of hiding behind polite conversations
    • Be willing to walk away. Trust compounds faster than revenue

    Episode highlights [03:08] The three biases quietly wrecking your deals: confirmation bias, learned helplessness, and risk aversion [08:01] The internal finance conversation that kills momentum before it starts [10:11] Why “and what else?” is the most powerful question in discovery [12:10] Kind lies vs painful truths and why one leads to failure [15:58] The real differentiator isn’t product or price. It’s trust [17:20] Why doing nothing feels safer even when it’s clearly wrong [24:58] The shift from “what do you want?” to “what do you really want?” [31:57] The mistake most operators make: not taking enough risk

    Links and resources

    https://www.felixriley.com/

    https://uk.linkedin.com/in/felix-riley-brilliant-thinking

    If you got value from this, follow the show and share it with someone who’s responsible for real commercial outcomes. And if you haven’t already, leave a review. It helps more than you think.

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    34 mins
  • 135. Will Steel - How to align identity and leadership for bigger impact
    Mar 23 2026

    If you’ve ever felt like leadership requires you to “put the suit on” and pretend you’ve got it all handled, this one will hit you right between the eyes. In this episode of Leadership That Sells, I’m joined by Will Steel, RAF veteran, high-performance coach, and author of Free to Lead. Will’s worked with close to 100,000 people, and he has a gift for getting underneath the surface fast.

    We unpack the masks leaders wear, why so many founders burn out before they ever get a breakthrough, and how the real bottleneck is almost never “the business”. It’s you. Your energy, your health, your beliefs, your need for approval, your fear of being seen. Will’s core message is simple and confronting: stop performing leadership and start being you. Not the polished persona. The real you. That’s where sustainable performance and real impact comes from.

    How to lead from identity, not ego, without burning out
    • Notice the “act” you put on at work, and where it stops working (often at home first).
    • Get brutally clear on the vision: once you’re clear, the path becomes clear, then it’s action and accountability.
    • Stop telling people what to do; make them accountable for outcomes and let them self-generate the “how”.
    • Replace drifting with structure: schedule your life, follow your schedule, and treat exercise and sleep like non-negotiables.
    • Strip back limiting beliefs by tracing the story to its origin (often a childhood interpretation posing as “truth”).
    • Practise real authenticity: acknowledge when you’ve been inauthentic, apologise, and choose a better way forward.
    Timeline summary

    [01:00] - Leadership without slogans: surfacing the patterns that actually create momentum [02:17] - The “strong leader” mask: confidence as performance, and the cost of wearing it [03:37] - Founders build a monster, then feel trapped inside it [06:06] - Clarity creates action: vision first, then accountability [07:20] - It’s never the business problem: start with sleep, exercise, food, and time [10:39] - Stop telling people what to do: hold them accountable for outcomes instead [13:27] - Real leadership is causing others to be leaders, not acting like you’ve got it all figured out [18:51] - Will’s RAF story: “you’re like a ghost” and the moment he chose to be himself [22:01] - Fitra: your true essence, and why leadership is being your true self in any environment [23:58] - The only real authenticity: being authentic about being inauthentic [28:32] - Limiting beliefs: the three-year-old decision that quietly runs your adult life [33:41] - Reading isn’t enough: the book works when you do the exercises and take action [38:09] - The final message: just start. Risk going too far, and find out how far you can go

    Links & resources
    • willsteel.com
    • Free to Lead (book + audiobook)

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Free-Lead-Unleash-Hidden-Leadership/dp/1967587051

    https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/Free-to-Lead-Audiobook/B0FY7J6T9Q

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    40 mins
  • 134. Darren Mitchell - How to become an exceptional sales leader
    Mar 16 2026

    If your best rep walked out tomorrow, would you lose just a number... or a method? In this episode of Leadership That Sells, I welcome back Darren Mitchell sales leader, coach, and host of the Exceptional Sales Leader Podcast to dig into a painful truth: most sales organisations are built on individual heroics, not systems. And that’s costing you.

    We talk about what really happens when top reps get promoted, why sales teams aren’t teams at all, and how to finally stop "renting" revenue from your best players. Darren and I rip into the leadership traps that stall performance from public pipeline beatings to pointless President’s Clubs and lay out a smarter, more scalable approach: codify what works, coach for contribution, and turn your sales force into a learning organisation. Expect strong opinions, sharper insights, and a few very uncomfortable questions for the old guard.

    How to protect your sales IP and turn top-performer secrets into team success
    • Stop building hero culture – If your top rep leaves and takes their method with them, that’s not a people problem, it’s a leadership failure.
    • Record everything – Use Zoom, Teams, even your phone to capture real sales conversations. That’s your goldmine.
    • Codify what works – Use AI and human analysis to extract patterns from top performers and build a playbook that evolves.
    • Reward sharing, not just winning – Add a “coach’s badge” to your President’s Club. You’re only elite if you help others win too.
    • Separate the levers – Keep deal inspections, coaching, and team learning as distinct meetings with distinct goals.
    • Don’t confuse presence with performance – The loudest person in the room isn’t always the best coach. Create space for real development.
    Timeline summary

    [01:12] – Sales teams aren’t teams. They’re golfers on their own course. [04:39] – “Would you lose their method too?” – the hidden IP risk in sales [06:32] – Why top performers often can’t teach what they do [07:50] – The double failure of promoting your best rep to manager [09:16] – Codifying excellence: how to use AI to extract the playbook [13:34] – The case for rewarding contribution, not just revenue [16:24] – Flip the sales meeting: learn together, don’t punish publicly [19:07] – The 3 types of meetings every sales leader must separate [21:03] – Coaching is the highest ROI activity – and the first to get cancelled [25:01] – Do we even need President’s Club anymore? [26:14] – Should we stop paying commission? (Yes, we went there) [30:39] – We’re renting success from individuals instead of building systems [35:00] – The power of giving: build a team that shares, not hoards

    Links & resources
    • https://au.linkedin.com/in/sales-leadership-coach
    • 🎙 Listen to The Exceptional Sales Leader Podcast

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    36 mins
  • 133. Jim Effner - How to use language to lead and sell
    Mar 9 2026

    What separates top producers from everyone else? In this episode of Leadership That Sells, I sit down with master sales trainer and performance coach Jim Effner to find out. Jim’s been at the top of the game as a top-producing advisor and now as the coach who helps financial professionals break through their own ceilings.

    We go deep on the three essential levers of sales success: mindset, systems and language. Jim explains why most people overlook mindset, how to build unshakeable confidence through competence, and why you’ll never outperform the person you see in the mirror. Expect powerful truths on how to rewire your beliefs, ditch scripts for language mastery, and create the environment that fuels consistent high performance. This one’s packed with quotable, practical gold.

    How to master mindset, language and systems to unlock elite sales performance
    • Start with mindset: Know your ‘why’ and keep it front and centre. Your mind leads, your body follows.
    • Environment is everything: What you read, who you hang out with, and what you listen to shapes your mindset.
    • Confidence comes from competence: Reps don’t need scripts, they need to know their language so well it flows under pressure.
    • Practice, drill, rehearse: The top performers crave feedback and accountability they ask to be tested.
    • Transformational growth starts in the mirror: Change the belief about who you are and where you’re going, then commit to the journey.
    • Serve first: Sales isn’t about pushing. It’s about understanding someone’s goals, solving their problems, and letting your own success follow.
    Timeline summary

    [01:52] – Start with your ‘why’ real mindset work begins here [03:00] – “Our mind leads and our body follows” the foundation of success [04:35] – The three levers: mindset, systems and language [07:14] – Why environment is your most powerful mindset tool [08:28] – Fast recovery = elite sales performance [10:44] – Belief shift: you become who you see in the mirror [13:10] – “Don’t drift” how to avoid settling into mediocrity [15:06] – Language mastery isn’t about scripts it’s about earned confidence [17:36] – “Salespeople wing it” and it’s killing their results [19:09] – How great managers build confidence through testing and accountability [22:00] – Humble confidence and service-first selling [24:05] – Let go of shame: sales is service at its best [27:00] – Know what fills your tank and walk away from what doesn’t

    Links & resources
    • https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimeffner
    • P2P Group

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    29 mins