Episodes

  • Episode 25 - Communicating a Historical Message, pt. 1
    Jan 28 2026

    Jeff and Josh sit down with Dr. Jason Varner to discuss communicating the historically located message of Scripture to people who are located in a different time and place in history.


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    28 mins
  • Episode 24 - Funeral Preaching with Dr. David Markle, pt. 2
    Jan 14 2026

    Jeff and Josh wrap up their discussion with Dr. David Markle on funeral preaching. How do we do it well, and what are some pitfalls to avoid?


    Resources on Preaching:

    • Preaching: A Kind of Folly by Ian Pitt-Watson
    • The Burdensome Joy of Preaching by Dr. Massey
    • Stewards of the Story: The Task of Preaching by Dr. Massey
    • Designing the Sermon: Order and Movement in Preaching by Dr. Massey

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    23 mins
  • Episode 23 - Funeral Preaching with Dr. David Markle, pt. 1
    Dec 31 2025

    Happy New Year's Eve! Jeff and Josh sit down with Dr. David Markle to discuss the extremely important topic of funeral preaching. How do we do it well, and what are some pitfalls to avoid?


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    31 mins
  • Episode 22 - The Bible, the Christian, and Stories, pt. 2
    Dec 17 2025

    Jeff and Josh sit down to finish our conversation with Dr. Jason Varner about how understanding history can help us better understand the stories in the Bible and our own stories.


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    21 mins
  • Episode 21 - The Bible, the Christian, and Stories with Dr. Jason Varner, pt. 1
    Dec 3 2025

    Jeff and Josh sit down with Dr. Jason Varner, Associate Professor of History and Director of the Peace and Conflict Transformation program, to learn about his preaching story and to discuss how understanding history can help us better understand the stories in the Bible and our own stories.


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    22 mins
  • Episode 20 - Preaching for Advent
    Nov 21 2025

    On today's special episode, Josh sits down with Joanie Frymire to interview Jeff about preaching during Advent. What is the advent season, why does it matter, and how do we preach and sing during this very important season of the church calendar?


    Show notes

    - Revised Common Lectionary Website

    - Advent Article by Tish Harrison Warren

    - Calendar: Christ's Time for the Church by Laurence Hull Stookey


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    55 mins
  • Episode 19 - Finding Your Voice in Preaching with Joel and Jonathan Frymire, pt. 2
    Nov 19 2025

    Jeff and Josh sit down to finish our conversation Jonathan and Joel Frymire about finding your voice in preaching and helping your people faithfully navigate the challenges they will face.


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    37 mins
  • Episode 18 - Finding Your Voice in Preaching with Joel and Jonathan Frymire, pt. 1
    Nov 5 2025

    Jeff and Josh sit down with Jeff's sons, Jonathan and Joel Frymire, to discuss their journey into preaching. Fair warning, this episode gets a little silly in some places.


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    25 mins