Why do so many therapists hesitate to use exposure therapy for PTSD, even when the research strongly supports it?

In this episode of the Psyched to Practice podcast, Ray sits down with Dr. Carmen McLean and Dr. Elizabeth Goetter to unpack the myths, fears, and misunderstandings surrounding Prolonged Exposure Therapy (PE). Together, they explore why avoidance keeps PTSD symptoms alive, why many clinicians feel anxious delivering trauma-focused care, and what the science actually says about retraumatization, dropout rates, and treatment outcomes.

The conversation also dives into some of the newest developments in PTSD treatment, including intensive treatment models, telehealth delivery, virtual tools, culturally responsive adaptations, and how PE is being used with complex comorbidities like substance use, borderline personality disorder, and suicidality.

Along the way, they reflect on the legacy of Dr. Edna Foa, the pioneer behind PE, and discuss why evidence-based trauma treatment still remains out of reach for far too many people.

This episode is packed with practical insight for clinicians, graduate students, and anyone interested in how trauma treatment continues to evolve.

Their New Book: https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-031-72720-7

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“Be well, and stay psyched"

As the school year winds down, many students hit a wall. They’re tired, overwhelmed, and often feel like it doesn’t even matter anymore. Missing assignments pile up, motivation drops, and even high-achieving students start to question whether it’s worth the effort.

In this episode, Paul and Ray break down what’s really happening during this final stretch. They explore why students feel “over it,” how burnout shows up differently across age groups, and what clinicians and parents can actually do to help.

You’ll hear practical strategies for tackling missing work without overwhelm, using “good enough” in a productive way, and helping kids regain momentum when they feel stuck. They also address the stress around standardized testing and how to reframe it so it doesn’t define a child’s sense of self.

This conversation is packed with real-world tools you can use immediately in sessions, at home, or in schools to help kids finish the year with less stress and fewer regrets.

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“Be well, and stay psyched"

What if the problem isn’t that your clients don’t have the right tools—but that the tools don’t feel usable in real life? In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Jesse Finkelstein to unpack how DBT moves beyond worksheets and into everyday decision-making. We break down what DBT actually is, why it works across diagnoses, and how its core ideas—like holding two truths at once—can shift the way clinicians think about change. You’ll hear how skills like mindfulness, distress tolerance, and emotion regulation show up in ordinary moments, not just crisis. We also explore why clients often avoid using skills, how to make them more engaging, and what it looks like to translate complex concepts into something people will actually use. If you’ve ever had a client say “I know what to do, I just don’t do it,” this conversation gives you a different way to approach that gap.

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“Be well, and stay psyched"