In this solo episode, Katrina shares a real-time reflection on a question many leaders and change-makers are navigating right now: When you speak truth or name harm, are you being divisive—or discerning?

Drawing on the framework of Spiral Dynamics , this episode explores how different stages of individual and collective development shape the way we interpret conflict, truth, and responsibility. What one stage perceives as “disruptive” or “too much,” another may recognize as necessary for growth and integrity.

Katrina breaks down the tension between inclusion and discernment—especially for those who value empathy, compassion, and multiple perspectives, but are learning that not all perspectives equally serve the collective.

This transmission covers:

• Why truth-telling is often labeled as divisive

• The difference between calling out harm and creating division

• How developmental stages influence perception, language, and conflict

• The limitations of “everyone’s truth is valid” in complex systems

• The shift from empathy alone to empathy paired with discernment

• A practical lens for evaluating whether a belief or message contributes to—or harms—the whole

This episode is both a personal reflection and a developmental lens for understanding the cultural moment we’re in—and how to lead within it without abandoning yourself.

Key Takeaway:

Discernment is not division. When rooted in care for the collective, it becomes a form of leadership.

If this episode resonates, share it with someone navigating similar conversations.

To go deeper,

Connect katrina@evolvngpotential.org

Follow Katrina.deangelis for more conversations on regenerative leadership, systems thinking, and building beyond inherited models.

Book a strategy call with Katrina & learn more about Regenerative Leadership & Business at www.evolvingpotential.org/strategy

Learn more about Light Dao here.

In this live LightDAO fireside chat recorded in Los Angeles, Katrina DeAngelis sits down with Larry Namer, co-founder of E! Entertainment Television, to explore how media, storytelling, technology, and culture shape one another in real time.

Larry shares the unlikely path that took him from splicing cables in the sewers of Manhattan for $90 a week to building one of the most recognized global television networks in the world. Across a career spanning more than five decades, he has launched media companies across the U.S., Russia, and China, created hit television in local languages, advised Microsoft on interactive media strategy, and continued to evolve alongside every major shift in the industry.

This conversation goes far beyond entertainment. Together, Katrina and Larry explore how media acts not only as content, but as cultural infrastructure. They discuss the responsibility of creators in an era where everyone is a publisher, how AI is reshaping the economics and creative process of media, why subtle storytelling often creates more social impact than messaging that tries to force a point, and what founders, creators, and brands need to understand about building attention today.

They also get into the deeper questions underneath the industry itself: how media reflects culture while also influencing it, what makes content resonate across countries and contexts, how to think about ethics in a decentralized creator economy, and why the future may belong to creators and companies who know how to build trust, not just visibility.

If you care about the future of storytelling, conscious business, global culture, AI, podcasting, personal brand, or regenerative approaches to media and innovation, this conversation offers both behind-the-scenes perspective and pattern recognition from someone who has lived through multiple eras of disruption.

• Larry Namer’s journey from cable splicer to co-founder of E! Entertainment

• What building media companies in Russia and China taught him about culture

• How media influences culture and culture influences media

• AI in media: opportunity, risk, ethics, and regulation

• The future of podcasting, vertical content, and creator-driven distribution

• Why subtle storytelling often has greater social impact than forceful messaging

• How founders and brands can use media more intentionally

• What it means to create responsibly in a world where everyone is now a media creator

Larry Namer is a global media pioneer, entrepreneur, and innovator best known as the co-founder of E! Entertainment Television, the only global TV network launched by two individuals rather than a major media conglomerate. E! grew into a global entertainment brand broadcast in 142 countries and is now valued near $10 billion.

Over a career spanning 50+ years, Larry has built media companies across the United States, Russia, China, and other international markets; created number-one television hits in multiple languages; advised global companies including Microsoft on interactive media strategy; and developed projects at the intersection of storytelling, social impact, and emerging technology. He also serves as Chairman of the World Film Institute and continues to work across entertainment, education, innovation, and culture.

ABOUT LIGHT DAO

A fast-growing trusted global community of over 3,000 conscious investors and entrepreneurs with curated in-person and online gatherings across 16 cities in North and South America, Europe, Middle East, Asia, and Australia, and rapidly expanding. Our heartfelt mission is to bring abundance for all through enlightenment, expanding the collective consciousness, and empowering values-aligned relationships. Together, we are co-creating a thriving regenerative future for humanity. http://wearelight.one/

Light Dao Lives are real-time recordings at fireside chats and panels in LA with leaders and founders building a more Regenerative Future. To learn more about Light Dao: https://wearelight.one/

Book a strategy session with Katrina: www.evolvingpotential.org/strategy

In this live recording from a LightDAO Member Innovation Showcase in Beverly Hills, Los Angeles, Katrina DeAngelis hosts a conversation with three founders building at different layers of regenerative systems change: financial empowerment, ecological intelligence, and human healing. The central question guiding the evening is clear: how do we design systems that restore capacity instead of extracting from it?

Uzrad Lew, Founder and CEO of YOUNITY, shares how his platform uses AI to address one of the most overlooked barriers to collective wellbeing: financial stress and the erosion of middle-class agency. Drawing on more than 25 years in finance, he explains why financial literacy, trusted guidance, and community-centered infrastructure are essential for helping people move out of survival mode and into real decision-making power.

Bastiaan den Braber, Founder of ZAMBEZI, explores the economic and ecological consequences of biodiversity loss and fragmented environmental data. He shares how ZAMBEZI is building an intelligence layer for the nature economy by combining satellite data, bioacoustics, camera traps, and field inputs to support ecosystem protection, risk visibility, and preventative action. Their first deployment in Southern Africa is designed to protect 84,000 acres in collaboration with scientists and operators on the ground.

Dr. Lara Wegener brings the conversation into the body. Her work is rooted in the belief that “humanity transforms when we return to our original design,” and centers on microbiome-activating elixirs handcrafted in the Mexican rainforest. Backed by decades of research, these formulas are designed to restore gut, skin, and immune harmony through CEO microorganisms and meteorite minerals, linking personal healing with the vitality of the Earth itself.

Together, these perspectives reveal a shared pattern. Regeneration is not about isolated solutions or better products alone. It is about redesigning the systems that shape how people live, decide, heal, and relate to the natural world.

This episode is for founders, investors, and systems thinkers exploring regenerative business, AI for financial literacy, ecological intelligence, nature economy infrastructure, microbiome health, and technologies rooted in living systems.

• AI for financial literacy and middle-class empowerment

• Financial stress, survival mode, and decision-making capacity

• Ecological intelligence and the nature economy

• Biodiversity data and preventative environmental action

• Microbiome health, immune balance, and regenerative healing

• Human health as a reflection of planetary health

• Community-centered innovation vs extractive systems

Uzrad Lew is the Founder and CEO of YOUNITY, a fintech platform designed to restore financial self-sufficiency through AI-powered guidance and community-centered tools. He brings over 25 years of experience as a financial advisor, investment banker, and dealmaker.

Bastiaan den Braber is the Founder of ZAMBEZI, which is building the intelligence layer for the nature economy through integrated environmental data systems that support ecosystem protection and risk visibility at scale.

Dr. Lara Wegener, MD works at the intersection of regenerative healing and microbiome restoration. Her work focuses on activated elixirs crafted in the rainforest, designed to restore biological harmony while reconnecting human health to the intelligence of living ecosystems.

Description

Conscious Capital: Rethinking Profit with Purpose, we dive into stories and conversations that prove business can be both compassionate and profitable. Discover how conscious leaders, entrepreneurs, and changemakers are reshaping capitalism to serve humanity and the planet, one mindful decision at a time. This podcast is for anyone who believes success is measured not only by numbers, but by the good we create.

Want to break free from your Leadership Molds? Get instant access to our 4 week Repatterining course here. https://www.evolvingpotential.org/beyondthemold

Show notes

03:12 Unconscious Conscious Capitalist

04:51 Why Conscious Capitalism Matters

10:46 Fundamentals of conscious capitalism

12:00 Teal Organization

13:38 Fundamentals of conscious capitalism

16:11 Biomimicry

21:31 Multiple dimensions of profit creation

28:08 Redefining role of marketing and leadership

30:44 Traditional business building methods

32:53 Taking responsibility for its role in the ecosystem

35:16 How can we embody conscious capitalist in a higher purpose

Regenerating Out Loud is hosted by Katrina DeAngelis, a regenerative business strategist and founder of EvolvingPotential.org, where she helps visionary founders design breakthrough brands and organizations by rebuilding the systems beneath them—culture, decision-making, and structure. She also founded MILOcares.com, a multifunctional personal care brand prototyping the next economy through regenerative business models. Across her work, Katrina helps leaders move beyond extractive patterns to build companies that evolve people, systems, and impact.

More about Todays guest Thomas Eckschmidt

Thomas is a former farmer, has a degree in engineering from University of Sao Paulo, Executive MBA from Business School Sao Paulo, Licensed Professional in Ecological Agriculture from Latin American Science Institute and Agribusiness Seminar at Harvard.

Successful corporate executive, with work experience in 20 countries In management consultancy and evolved to an entrepreneurial life in which he was awarded over 12 times for impact, innovation and sustainability. Creative leader with 4 patents filed, published 23 books including “Fundamentals of Conscious Capitalism” (2016 in Portuguese), Conscious Capitalism Field Guide (Harvard BUsiness Review Press 2018).

Cofounder of the Conscious Capitalism movement in Brazil, Colombia and Peru, Cofounder and CEO of CBJ – Conscious Business Journey, a network of 1.300 certified Conscious Capitalist Consultants / Change Agents, with presence in 28 countries. Program facilitated personally by Thomas since 2015. He is also a TEDx speaker, with 4 talks (Spanish, Portuguese and English) with over 500k views and his purpose is to accelerate the upgrade of leaders and their organizations towards a more conscious business ecosystem.

The Conscious Loop FREE Meditation and Workbook ⁠ to rewire your unconscious! Instant download here !⁠ ⁠

Join host Katrina DeAngelis in this episode of 'The Conscious Loop' as she sits down with Sam Garcia, best-selling author and founder of 'The Dirty Alchemy,' a marketing agency for conscious entrepreneurs. They dive into the concept of regenerative business—aligning business practices with nature to create abundance and sustainability. Explore paradigm shifts, mindset changes, and practical steps for integrating activism and social responsibility into business operations. Whether you're a business owner or an individual looking to live more consciously, this episode offers valuable insights into making meaningful, sustainable changes.

00:00 Introduction to The Conscious Loop

00:41 Meet Sam Garcia: Author and Entrepreneur

01:56 Understanding Regenerative Business

04:06 Challenges and Mindset Shifts in Business

04:28 The Role of Women and Patriarchy in Business

05:52 The Importance of Healing and Security

07:43 The Impact of Regenerative Practices

08:59 Marketing and Accessibility in Regenerative Business

13:44 Anti-Capitalism and Regenerative Solutions

28:49 Personal Reflections and Future Visions

35:04 Practical Steps for Businesses and Individuals

43:36 Closing Thoughts and Resources

FREE DOWNLOAD - The Conscious Loop Gift to you -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠20 minute guided journey and workbook to rewire your unconscious! Instant Download here ! ⁠⁠https://guided.theconsciousloop.com/guidedjourney

⁠Want to work with Katrina? Book a laser coaching discovery call here. ⁠

TODAYS GUEST

Samantha (Sam) Garcia is the author of the bestselling book, Regenerative Business: How to Align Your Business with Nature for More Abundance, Fulfillment, and Impact, and is the founder of Dirty Alchemy, the marketing agency & consulting firm for conscious entrepreneurs, coaches & course creators.

Sam hosts the Regenerative Business podcast, and helps revolutionary online business owners build a thriving business ecosystem that contributes to a better world.

Sam graduated from the University of Michigan with a Bachelors in Physics and a minor in Environmental Science, and went on to get a Permaculture Design Certification before moving to Maui in 2013. She co-founded the regenerative agriculture business, Living Earth Systems, with her now husband Eddy Garcia in 2015, on the side of growing her marketing business. Sam & Eddy work and live off-grid on their regenerative farm on Maui with their 2 dogs, cat, ducks, chickens, peacocks, cows, sheep, and wild boar.

Connect with Sam:

www.thedirtyalchemy.com

www.instagram.com/thedirtyalchemy

The Conscious Loop Gift to you - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠FREE DOWNLOAD - ⁠ ⁠20 minute guided journey and workbook to rewire your unconscious! Instant Download here ! ⁠

Join host Katrina DeAngelis on The Conscious Loop as she welcomes back Lisa Kalfus, the renowned Connection Alchemist, for part 2 of DEEPENING relationships and an enlightening conversation on deepening relationships. Building on their previous discussion about accelerating connections, this episode delves into the art of creating meaningful, long-lasting bonds in both personal and professional settings.

In this episode, you will learn:

• The importance of mindset and conversational skills in building authentic connections.

• How to create powerful connection rituals that enrich relationships.

• Strategies for shifting from surface-level interactions to deeper, more fulfilling conversations.

• The impact of quality time and shared experiences on relationship growth.

• Difficult conversations as the pathway to deeper connections

• Techniques for navigating challenging conversations with compassion and clarity.

Guest Bio:

Lisa Kalfus, known for her transformative Connection Accelerator Method, has over 20 years of experience in fostering genuine connections. Her work has impacted thousands globally, including leaders and entrepreneurs, through one-on-one coaching, group experiences, and organizational retreats. With certifications in advanced methodologies like the Xchange Approach, Lisa excels in enhancing human connection at scale. She is also the founder of Firestart Connections and the creator of the transformative Connection Hour® experience.

Tune in to discover how to deepen your relationships and cultivate a more connected life. Don’t miss the actionable insights and practical tools shared by Lisa and Katrina in this engaging episode.

FOLLOW LISA FOR CONNECTION TIPS & CONVERSATION STARTER QUESTIONS:

Follow on LinkedIn: @⁠Lisa Kalfus⁠ Insta: @⁠lisakalfus⁠

Download the Free Toolkit: ⁠10 QUESTIONS TO BUILD RAPPORT AT EVENTS & SOCIAL GATHERINGS, FAST ⁠

Follow and like the show to never miss a beat! @Conscious_loop

• The Conscious Loop Gift to you -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠FREE DOWNLOAD - ⁠20 minute guided journey and workbook to rewire your unconscious! Instant Download here !

• ⁠Want to work with me? Book a discovery laser coaching call here. ⁠

EPISODE INFO

In this episode of The Conscious Loop, host Katrina DeAngelis sits down with Lisa Kalfus, a master in human connection, to discuss the art of building deeper relationships. Tune in for a powerful conversation on how to skip the small talk and accelerate meaningful connections.

What You’ll Walk Away With:

• Tips for Accelerating Connections: Learn how to ask the right questions and engage more deeply with others.

• The Power of Intention and Context: Discover how setting the right intention can transform your interactions.

• Techniques to Enhance Conversations: From mindful listening to telling better stories, gain practical tools to connect authentically.

• Overcoming Common Barriers: Understand and overcome unconscious loops that hinder deep connections.

• Real-Life Applications: Hear inspiring stories and examples of how these strategies can transform professional and personal relationships.

FOLLOW LISA FOR CONNECTION TIPS & CONVERSATION STARTER QUESTIONS:

Follow on LinkedIn: @Lisa Kalfus Insta: @lisakalfus

Download the Free Toolkit: 10 QUESTIONS TO BUILD RAPPORT AT EVENTS & SOCIAL GATHERINGS, FAST

SHOW NOTES

Lisa Kalfus is an expert in Human Connection. She is the Founder of Firestart Connections® and is on a mission to empower people, teams and communities, to connect better.

As a Certified Human Connection Facilitator & Conversation Coach, Lisa empowers people to elevate their relational mastery so they confidently create strong, authentic relationships by having more real conversations. Driven by the belief that meaningful connections and greater possibilities are just one conversation away, Lisa has 20+ years experience navigating and leading complex human interactions in fast-paced, high-performing business environments.

Certified in advanced methodologies, including the Xchange Approach used by major organizations like BMW and Nike, years of studying relational & conversational intelligence, and traveling the world meeting new people in different cultures, she took her lessons and created The Connection Accelerator Method, a proven framework for human connection & growth by which she accelerates human exchange at scale.

She is known for being able to create a powerful connection within the first 5 minutes and loves empowering others to do the same!

The conversation delves into practical strategies to accelerate and deepen relationships through powerful questions, mindful listening, and telling better stories. They also explore the importance of being brave, skipping small talk, and maintaining curiosity. The episode encourages listeners to transform their interactions by focusing on the intention and context of conversations and provides actionable tips to enhance the quality of human connections both personally and professionally.

00:00 Welcome to the Conscious Loop

01:27 The Power of Deepening Relationships

02:14 Introducing Lisa: Connection Alchemist

03:55 Transformative Moments: From Corporate to Connection

07:39 Overcoming Unconscious Loops

10:31 The Art of Asking Better Questions

12:45 Mindset Shifts for Meaningful Conversations

15:06 Practical Tips for Accelerating Connections

20:50 The Impact of Intentional Conversations

31:16 Challenge: Skip the Small Talk

On this episode I share my skin & breakout struggles and we get REAL on Skincare and Beauty so that you can breakthrough your breakouts

In this episode, I challenge traditional beauty norms and redefine what it means to have healthy, radiant skin. Join me as I share my personal journey with my skin recently - that goes beyond the surface. In this episode, I dive deep into the mental, physical, emotional, and spiritual aspects of skin health.

I’ll share my recent breakout experience and the holistic approach I took to heal it—from changing my diet to examining my thoughts and emotions. Discover how our internal state influences our skin and learn practical tips to achieve true beauty from the inside out.

Tune in to gain insights on self-love, overcoming societal beauty pressures, and embracing your natural glow. Whether you struggle with breakouts or just looking to enhance your relationship to yourself - this episode offers relatable, real-talk guidance to help you on your journey.

Remember, true beauty starts within. Join us and let’s redefine beauty together.

FREE DOWNLOAD - The Conscious Loop Gift to you -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠20 minute guided journey and workbook to rewire your unconscious! Instant Download here ! ⁠https://guided.theconsciousloop.com/guidedjourney

Want to work with me? Book a discovery laser coaching call here. ⁠