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What changes when future doctors are taught not only about conditions, but to listen to the people living with them?

Jannine is joined by her long-time friend and collaborator Michele Gutteridge, Assistant Professor and Communication and Lived Experience Co-Lead at Warwick Medical School.

Their conversation begins with the shared roots of their work in arts and health and explores how theatre, storytelling, simulation and virtual reality can help medical students understand experiences beyond their own.

Together, they discuss psychological safety, neurodivergent access to healthcare, the risks people take when they speak about what they need, and why clinical frameworks must never replace curiosity about the whole person.

They also firmly challenge the idea that lived experience stands in the way of clinical progress. Research, clinical knowledge and lived experience are not competing forces. Each informs the other—and better healthcare depends upon bringing them together.

This is a hopeful conversation about what is already changing within medical education, what still needs to change, and how listening to ADHD, autistic and other neurodivergent people can help create more accessible, compassionate healthcare.

Michele's social media: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michele-gutteridge-51ba4115/

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