Episodes

  • A Kairos Moment
    Oct 7 2025
    Heidi and Jaymi sit down for the first time in a few weeks. A lot has happened in the world at large. The assassination of Charlie Kirk and the unfolding events since then are too big to ignore. A shift has happened culturally in the USA. What could be on the horizon for our nation and the church? What is our role as Christians in all of it? As usual many questions are asked, concerns are voiced, verbal processing begins. This conversation will likely be an ongoing one. Stay tuned for more...
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    42 mins
  • Rule 6: Set Your House In Perfect Order Before You Criticize The World
    Aug 18 2025

    Jaymi and Heidi get back on track with rule #6, talk about jet skiing in the Bermuda Triangle??, their new steam mop and other topics of huge importance. Listen for your usual challenge, SMH's, giggles or whatever reason you might find this podcast interesting.

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    1 hr and 2 mins
  • The Nature of Pursuit & Do It Lady
    Jul 1 2025

    We’re back! We sat down with nothing and ended up with something (I think?) Heidi chats about her hyper-fixations and rediscovering Jesus while Jaymi compares her to the prodigal son and ends with do it lady. All in all it’s a pretty normal sacred tangent episode with Jaymi & Heidi. Enjoy :)

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    36 mins
  • The Voices Inside
    Jun 10 2025

    Jaymi and Heidi tangent about their inside voices. The still small voice, the internal critic, the voices of culture and society, the voices of friends, parents etc. Jaymi tries to articulate what the voices actually sound like or feel while Heidi asks questions and mhm like it’s her job. This one felt extra tangenty and processy. Enjoy this bts into our brains.(mostly Jaymi’s this time)

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    1 hr and 8 mins
  • Rule 5: Do Not Let Your Children Do Anything Thats Makes You Dislike Them
    May 28 2025

    This week Heidi and Jaymi confess their latest strange addiction(it’s not pornographic but it is?) Listen for more context. We dip our toes into the waters of parenting and talk through some of the standout points of the chapter with plenty of tangents in between. Parenting is hard and we’re learning as we go like everyone else but the good news is we’re giggling a lot along the way.

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    1 hr and 20 mins
  • No Rule: The Plan is No Plan
    May 14 2025

    In this episode we take a brief intermission from 12 Rules. We sit down, hit record and talk extemporaneously(look it up) about whatever pops into our brain. We discuss podcasting for 10,000 hours, Heidi gets personal about currently being humbled yay, we get into caring what other people think etc. We kept it short you're welcome. Enjoy. :)

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    40 mins
  • Rule 4: Compare Yourself With Who You Were Yesterday, Not With Who Someone Else Is Today
    Apr 28 2025

    Jaymi and Heidi find themselves again pulling on life's loose threads this week. Imbibing on Jordan Petersons 4th rule of the 12 he has for life. "Compare yourself to who you were yesterday, not who someone else is today. This one was encouraging, we hope you find as much life in this conversation as we did.

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    1 hr and 12 mins
  • Rule 3: Make Friends With People Who Want The Best For You
    Apr 15 2025

    Jewelry stores (who's shopping there?), show and tell, and most of all friendship tangents. Jaymi and Heidi discuss the nuances and wade through more friendship questions. The last 15 minutes gets good. Hang in there friends, we're going somewhere, eventually.

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    1 hr and 17 mins