This episode was originally published in May 2011. In a small town near Daytona Beach, Florida is a park (Holly Hill) where NA and AA meetings have been meeting for over 17 years. Recently a group of local concerned citizens near the park has had their lives threatened numerous times by numerous AA/NA members.

Police were called, City Council meetings were held, neighbors signed petitions, newspapers reporters wrote stories and NA World Services/AA World Services were called to address this threatening behavior. What role does each World service hold with regards to responsibility of members and meetings. Why do these members feel entitled to take this park hostage as "theirs"?

A controversial look at a serious problem dealing with both sober/clean addicts & alcoholics. Where is their spiritual practice? Are they paying rent for the pavilion like the local residents do?

Harriet will join us to share what she is doing to raise awareness and to protect minors.

This episode was originally published in March 2012.

Are you a man/woman/teen who has lost his/her legs and will never grow new ones. (quote from Big Book of AA)

Who was Bill W and what did he know about a teenager who is drinking too much. Nothing! Parents, young people who are over doing in the drink and drug department need to listen to this show.

Would you listen to a Doctor who was reading a manual from 1936? I doubt it, yet this is what AA, NA and 95% of all treatment and rehabs preach. I say ...STOP THE MADNESS!!!

This episode was originally published on July 17th, 2012. Here is a new site for bloggers that is troll free. Many bloggers left OPF and after Sinkin thinkin shut down ( although I hear it's up again to post comments) we didn't have a place to go and communicate safely.

Created by UK Blogger, mfc66, it is filling a void many of us all felt we needed.

Ex Steppers, Ex Al ANON members and ex 12 step person of any kind are finding a safe haven here to discuss the many problems in and around the 12 step culture and how it has invaded our government, entertainment and healthcare.

This episode was originally published on September 7th, 2011. After years attending AA meetings people when people leave sometimes feel alone and unsupported. Monica shares how she and many others deal with being iced out, gaslit and ostracized after believing a community was like your family and your closest friends are now your enemy.

This episode was originally published on February 22, 2012. Join Donna Cornett Founder of Drink Link Moderation to discuss help for those with early stages of a drinking problem who prefer to learn to moderate than do abstinence.

This episode was originally published on Oct 31st, 2012.

When a male AA member killed a mother and child in Honolulu a big five year investigation ensued, only to discover that courts were ordering violent & sexual offenders to AA meetings, unknown to the public. Monica Richardson discovered through an AA world board member that sex offenders were targeting meetings unknown to members or the public (who were being forced there by courts and unions) . After attending AA for over 30+ years Monica decided to leave and change things from the outside.

This episode was originally published on December 5th, 2012.

In 1982, Dr Marc Kern received his Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology from the California School of Professional Psychology. In 1983 He founded Addiction Alternatives, his private practice in Los Angeles, California, to provide clients with non-12-step addiction treatment alternatives, because there are many more people like him who do not find AA and the 12-step approach to be effective. His practical self-help book "Take Control, Now!" is a do-it-yourself blueprint for managing unwanted habits. of the Addictions.

This episode was originally published on April 18th, 2012 Alternatives to 12-Step Programs

When AA doesn't work for you, there are many other ways to get help for problematic use:

1. 1. SMART Recovery
   2. The Sinclair Method using Naltrexone
   3. Psilocybin journeys with an Indigenous shaman or therapist
   4. Harm Reduction
   5. Moderation Management
   6. "Get a life" approach
   7. Go back to school
   8. Good outpatient treatment with no AA requirement
   9. The Freedom Model
   10. The Center for Motivation and Change in NYC
   11. Practical Recovery in San Diego
   12. Ibogaine therapy in Mexico
   13. Ketamine therapy done with a doctor
   14. LifeRing Secular Recovery
   15. Rational Recovery (not my favorite)