• How to Build a $55 Million Business by Dumbing It Down | Kory Rykman, Allstate Agency Owner
    Apr 16 2026

    Welcome back to the Say It Better podcast. This episode is one you are not going to want to sleep on. I sat down with my friend Kory Rykman, an Allstate agency owner managing over $55 million in annual recurring premiums across multiple locations in the Southeast. He is a two-time MVP and Best in Company Award winner for Allstate, and the way he thinks about sales, leadership, and building a business is something every entrepreneur needs to hear.

    Kory's story starts with immigrant parents, a dream, and a taste of what was possible. From chasing a dentistry degree to selling software to hospitals, to watching his wife's insurance comp plan and deciding to bet on himself, Kory has built something serious. And the through line in everything he does comes down to one thing: keep it simple.

    This conversation goes deep on what it really takes to build and scale a business, delegate without losing momentum, and sell in a way that actually connects with people.

    In this episode we cover:

    • How Kory simplifies complex insurance products into language that actually closes deals
    • Why he was the bottleneck in his own business and what he did about it
    • The mindset shift that took him from grind mode to building a team that runs without him
    • How he spends $190,000 per month in marketing and what that investment looks like
    • His approach to lead generation including mail, internet leads, and high-intent prospects
    • Why young entrepreneurs fail by underestimating how big they can actually be
    • The books that shaped how he sells, leads, and thinks about long-term wealth

    Kory is the real deal and this conversation will push you to stop overcomplicating what you are building and get out of your own way.

    ➡Learn more about Kory:

    https://www.facebook.com/koryrykman

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/koryrykman/

    https://www.instagram.com/kory_mcfly?igsh=MThvZHNieDEwenkwbQ==

    https://m.youtube.com/@kory.rykman

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  • The CEO Blind Spot Nobody Talks About | Nick Fraunfelder, CEO of SureOak
    Mar 19 2026

    Welcome to the very first episode of the Say It Better podcast. I could not have asked for a better person to kick this off than my friend Nick Fraunfelder, CEO of SureOak, a digital marketing agency helping major brands like SoFi get found by Google and AI. Nick leads a team of 35 people across four continents, and the way he thinks about communication, culture, and leadership is something every business owner, manager, and aspiring leader needs to hear.

    In this conversation, Nick drops real talk about what it actually takes to build a team that executes on a vision, how to have the hard conversations no one wants to have, and why caring is not soft. It is a non-negotiable standard.

    One of the things that stuck with me most from this episode: people will forgive mistakes. They will not forgive not caring. That alone is worth the listen.

    In this episode we cover:

    • How Nick built a unified culture across a fully remote, globally distributed team.
    • Why it took him a year and a half to get the vision right, and what finally made it click.
    • The "Six by Six" framework for giving employees real feedback before it's too late.
    • What it means to position people properly and why A players will never take direction from C players.
    • How to communicate vision in a way your team can actually run with.
    • The difference between growth decisions and scale decisions.
    • Why the toughest challenges in business always come back to people.
    • How AI is changing consumer behavior and what that means for your brand right now.

    Nick brings heat the entire conversation, and we even get into talent vs. passion, ego vs. service, and what Coach Wooden and Tom Brady can teach us about leadership. This one is fire.

    Learn more about Nick:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-fraunfelder/

    https://www.youtube.com/@sureoak

    https://sureoak.com/strategy-call

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    54 mins