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Sobriety... Now What? with Stuart Cline

Sobriety... Now What? with Stuart Cline

Written by: Stuart Cline LPCC MAC ATR-BC
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Most sobriety podcasts tell you to stay sober. This one helps you figure out what to do with the life you're building.


Sobriety... Now What? is for people who are sober — or trying to be — and ready to go deeper than just not drinking or using. Each episode explores what it actually looks like to build a life worth staying sober for.


I'm your host, Stuart Cline — a licensed therapist, addiction counselor, and Master Addiction Counselor (MAC) with over 25 years in clinical practice — from a locked inpatient psychiatric unit early in my career, to leading an intensive outpatient program, to 18 years of hospital-based clinical work alongside a private practice. In New Mexico I hold two active licenses: Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor (LPCC) and Licensed Alcohol and Drug Abuse Counselor (LADAC).

I also bring something no credential can give you. I grew up with two alcoholic parents — one who got sober, and one who didn't. The difference between those two paths shaped my life and my purpose. I know what recovery can cost, and I know what it can give back.


Each episode offers practical tools, honest conversations, and real strategies for navigating the emotional terrain of sober life — cravings, stress, relationships, purpose, identity, and everything in between. You'll hear from authors, musicians, teachers, business owners, and recovery experts, alongside solo episodes where I break down what works, why it works, and how to apply it.

There's no single right way to recover. But there are principles that help people thrive — and that's what we explore here.


This podcast exists to help you avoid unnecessary suffering and discover what's possible when sobriety becomes a foundation, not a limitation.

You're not alone — and you don't have to figure this out by yourself.

🌐 www.sobrietynowwhat.com ✉️ sobrietynowwhat111@gmail.com

Sobriety Now What? — Let's explore what comes next.

Disclaimer: This podcast is for educational purposes only and does not establish a therapeutic or counseling relationship.

© 2026 Sobriety... Now What? with Stuart Cline
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Episodes
  • EP. 47 Nick Jonsson on Executive Loneliness: 5 Pathways to Recovery from Isolation, Burnout & Stress
    Oct 12 2026

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    In this shorter episode, host Stuart Cline shares a recovered conversation with Nick Jonsson, #1 international bestselling author of Executive Loneliness: The 5 Pathways to Overcoming Isolation, Stress, Anxiety & Depression in the Modern Business World.

    Nick (joining from Thailand while Stuart was in New Mexico) decided to write the book in 2019 after losing a friend to suicide, about a year into his own recovery. Technical issues limited the full interview, but the eight minutes we salvaged are packed with practical insight. Nick walks through his five pathways:

    • Taking stock (honest self-assessment)
    • Asking for help
    • Getting healthy
    • Nurturing healthy relationships
    • Finding your purpose

    He also touches on burnout, the cost of strained relationships (citing research that poor close relationships can be as harmful as smoking), how purpose often emerges once the basics are in place, and how he rediscovered his own sense of purpose by looking back at what he loved as a child.

    Whether you’re in recovery, leading under pressure, or simply feeling the weight of isolation and modern stress, this conversation offers a clear, grounded framework you can start using right away.

    Connect with Nick Jonsson

    Website: https://www.nickjonsson.com/

    Book a free connection call (speaking, coaching, or collaboration): https://www.nickjonsson.com/contact-me

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-jonsson/

    Nick also hosts The Limitless Podcast.

    About the show

    Sobriety… Now What? (soon becoming Live Unclouded) helps people who are sober—or building a life worth staying sober for—navigate purpose, relationships, stress, and meaning.

    If this episode was useful, share it with someone who might need it or leave a quick review.

    Note: This is a shorter salvaged episode due to connectivity challenges during the original recording.

    Invitation to consider at least one helpful piece of information to help them thrive in their sobriety and to share with podcast with others and to follow and email questions.

    Support the show

    HI! If you would like to find out more things I offer, check out the links below. I am transitioning the title from Sobriety...Now What? to Live Unclouded, after the book title, I am publishing September 1st.

    🌐 Website: www.Liveunclouded.com

    🌱 Stuart Cline: www.Stuartcline.com

    🧠 Counseling Services: www.nmcounseling.com

    📧 Email: Liveunclouded@gmail.com

    Have a topic you’d like me to cover?
    Send me an email—I’d love to hear what would be most helpful for you.

    If this episode helped you:
    Follow the podcast, leave a review, and share it with a friend

    Disclaimer
    This podcast is for educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional medical or mental health care. Listening to this podcast does not establish a therapeutic relationship. If you are in need of support, please reach out to a qualified healthcare provider.

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    13 mins
  • EP. 46 How to Stay Sober When Life Falls Apart | 30 Years of Recovery with Joseph Ganci
    Oct 6 2026

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    How do you stay sober when life falls apart?

    Joseph Ganci has been in recovery for nearly 30 years. Along the way, he has faced divorce, financial loss, and the devastating death of his daughter—without returning to alcohol.

    In this episode of Sobriety, Now What?, Joe shares what helped him keep moving forward through grief, loss, and some of the hardest moments of his life. We talk about AA, service, asking for help, letting go of how life “should” be, and the role spirituality and faith can play in recovery.

    Joe also explains why “even high bottoms have trapdoors,” shares the questions he asks people he sponsors, and tells the remarkable AA story of a roll of nickels and a phone call that helped change recovery history.

    Whether AA or faith is part of your recovery or not, there are lessons here about connection, grief, service, resilience, and staying sober when life doesn’t go according to plan.

    At the end, I share three simple tools from Joe’s story that you can put into practice today.

    In this episode:
    • Staying sober through grief and major loss
    • Why having a “high bottom” doesn’t mean alcohol isn’t a problem
    • Service and connection as recovery tools
    • Allowing yourself to grieve and cry
    • Letting go of “should” statements
    • Spirituality, faith, and finding your own path
    • Three practical tools you can use today

    Content note: This episode includes discussion of suicide and the death of a child. If you are struggling or in crisis in the U.S., call or text 988.

    To reach joseph checkout his website: Rumradio.com

    Invitation to consider at least one helpful piece of information to help them thrive in their sobriety and to share with podcast with others and to follow and email questions.

    Support the show

    HI! If you would like to find out more things I offer, check out the links below. I am transitioning the title from Sobriety...Now What? to Live Unclouded, after the book title, I am publishing September 1st.

    🌐 Website: www.Liveunclouded.com

    🌱 Stuart Cline: www.Stuartcline.com

    🧠 Counseling Services: www.nmcounseling.com

    📧 Email: Liveunclouded@gmail.com

    Have a topic you’d like me to cover?
    Send me an email—I’d love to hear what would be most helpful for you.

    If this episode helped you:
    Follow the podcast, leave a review, and share it with a friend

    Disclaimer
    This podcast is for educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional medical or mental health care. Listening to this podcast does not establish a therapeutic relationship. If you are in need of support, please reach out to a qualified healthcare provider.

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    27 mins
  • Ep. 45 Encore Episode: Kindness, Connection & Recovery | Francesca Donlan
    Oct 1 2026

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    What if one of the most powerful tools for feeling better, reconnecting with others, and strengthening your recovery was something as simple as kindness?

    In this audience-favorite episode, I sit down with Francesca Donlan—journalist, educator, kindness teacher, and my sister—to explore what kindness actually looks like in everyday life.

    Francesca created and taught a college course on the science and practice of kindness, and in this conversation, we talk about what she learned from her students—and from putting kindness into practice herself.

    We explore why kindness is more than simply being “nice,” why it can be surprisingly difficult to receive a compliment, and how small intentional actions can change the way we experience ourselves and the people around us.

    We also talk about:

    • Why kindness begins with how you treat yourself
    • How small acts can create a ripple effect
    • Using kindness and gratitude as healthy coping skills
    • Getting outside of your own head by helping someone else
    • Learning to notice the good that is already happening around you
    • Why receiving kindness can sometimes be as important as giving it
    • Simple ways to practice kindness when you're struggling
    • How kindness can help rebuild connection in recovery

    Francesca shares stories from her kindness classes, including the $10 Kindness Challenge, unexpected acts of generosity, and the student who learned that sometimes the kindness we go out to give comes back to us in ways we never expected.

    One of my favorite ideas from this conversation is also one of the simplest:

    Kindness isn't just something we think about. It's something we do.

    You don't have to change the world today. Smile at someone. Give a genuine compliment. Write down three things you're grateful for. Do something thoughtful for yourself.

    Then see what happens.

    A question to carry with you today:

    How can I be kind today—to myself, to others, and to the world?

    This episode originally appeared earlier in the podcast and remains one of our most-listened-to conversations, so I'm bringing it back for listeners who may have missed it the first time.

    Live free, evolve fully, and live unclouded. And be kind to yourself.

    Invitation to consider at least one helpful piece of information to help them thrive in their sobriety and to share with podcast with others and to follow and email questions.

    Support the show

    HI! If you would like to find out more things I offer, check out the links below. I am transitioning the title from Sobriety...Now What? to Live Unclouded, after the book title, I am publishing September 1st.

    🌐 Website: www.Liveunclouded.com

    🌱 Stuart Cline: www.Stuartcline.com

    🧠 Counseling Services: www.nmcounseling.com

    📧 Email: Liveunclouded@gmail.com

    Have a topic you’d like me to cover?
    Send me an email—I’d love to hear what would be most helpful for you.

    If this episode helped you:
    Follow the podcast, leave a review, and share it with a friend

    Disclaimer
    This podcast is for educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional medical or mental health care. Listening to this podcast does not establish a therapeutic relationship. If you are in need of support, please reach out to a qualified healthcare provider.

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    1 hr and 3 mins
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