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Some Work, All Play

Some Work, All Play

Written by: David Roche and Megan Roche
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Five to ten topics, sometimes about running, with lots of love and enthusiasm and science. We dig deep into training, races, studies, pop culture, and much more! With Megan Roche, M.D. and David Roche!David Roche and Megan Roche Running & Jogging
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  • 336. Marathon Fueling and Training, The Best Training Shoe of All Time, and New Heat Science!
    Nov 10 2026

    We compressed our vocal cord zones before this great episode! The main topic was a discussion on new data on marathon fueling and training, focusing on NYC Marathon winner Andreas Almgren. It’s a brave new world for performance, with implications for how every athlete thinks about long-term growth.

    And this one was full of amazing topics! Other topics: David’s full clearance to run after surgery, our updated thoughts on elliptical training, extremely high carb in the Ironman record, how we were wrong on the Olympic Trials marathon standards, a study and heat and humidity cross acclimation, wild science on how self-rated heat tolerance may influence response rates, the line between delusion and belief, the best training shoe of all time, and lots more.

    We love you all! Cough cough cough! HUZZAH!

    -David and Megan

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    1 hr and 7 mins
  • 335. Jess McClain Sprints to HISTORY at the NYC Marathon! Reactions and Training Theory from A Wild Weekend
    Nov 3 2026

    JESS MCCLAIN 2ND AT THE NYC MARATHON! In an iconic sprint finish! On one level, we are not surprised. But on another level, WTF?!

    Jess is one of our life heroes, and we break down what we have learned from her. 2 years ago, after having a tougher day at NYC, she took a chance on us as coaches. Her belief changed our lives forever. And this weekend, she got to share her kindness and joy and FIRE with the whole world in a way that will be remembered forever!

    Translation: we were extremely excited for this episode. We talk about her 2nd place (the first American on the podium in NYC since Shalane Flanagan in 2018), Rachael Rudel’s win at the Dash to the Finish 5k, what we are learning about training theory, and all of the wild experiences from NYC. Our goal is to bring you into the whole experience, so it can be like you were there!

    In conclusion, WTF?? (I'm talking about the pasta description you won't be able to unhear)

    Thank you all for your support over the years. We love you all!

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    1 hr and 33 mins
  • 334. Running Form and Fatigue Resistance, Bombshell Doping News, Lactate Gel Experimenting, and How Sweat Rate Changes Over Time!
    Oct 26 2026

    We got in trouble at the gym before this great episode! The main topic was a new study tying deteriorating fatigue resistance to increased duty factor (ground contact time). Essentially, the longer the foot stays on the ground after a couple hours of work, the worse the fatigue resistance. That points toward neuromuscular interventions that could improve endurance.

    And this one was full of awesome topics! Other topics: lactate gel experimentation, the major doping bust in road marathoning, menthol gels, our issues with high-carb drink mixes in ultras, how sweat rate varies across an event, a study on deception methods improving performance, steady running the day after long runs, shaving your legs, Strava etiquette, the problems with MAF training, and a big discussion of why we look to training approaches that work for pro female athletes to derive some training theory.

    Welcome to the best episode! Oh, actually that’s supposed to say “vest” episode. We regret the error.

    We love you all! HUZZAH!

    David

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    1 hr and 28 mins
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