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Sunday School Dropouts

Sunday School Dropouts

Written by: Center for Trauma Resolution and Recovery
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Sunday School Dropouts is a podcast hosted by trained therapists Dr. Laura Anderson and Andrew Kerbs. Both Andrew and Laura grew up in high control religion and spent years trying to live up to the rules and standards until one day, they couldn’t do it anymore. They spent our lives aspiring to be true followers of God and all they got from it was religious trauma.So now, they’re taking our lived experiences along with their education, training, and work with clients to create this podcast–a podcast that goes beyond deconstruction and focuses on the unique aspects healing and recovery for folks coming out of high control religions, cults, fundamentalism, purity culture and those with religious trauma. Each episode they will be talking with other experts, mental health practitioners, coaches, advocates, therapists and folks who have survived fundamentalist systems, to learn from their experiences and offer resources and support for healing.© 2025 Sunday School Dropouts Hygiene & Healthy Living Psychology Psychology & Mental Health Spirituality
Episodes
  • How Patriarchy & Purity Culture Shape Men
    Jan 20 2026

    Dan Miller is back, and this time we are talking about the side of purity culture that almost never gets center stage: how it messes with men. While purity culture is usually framed around controlling women’s bodies and desires, Dan helps us unpack how men and those socialized as male are shaped by shame, fear, and some wildly unhealthy expectations. From being taught they are inherently dangerous to being trapped in rigid ideas of masculinity, this conversation looks at how purity culture limits emotional range, intimacy, and even basic self understanding long after people have deconstructed the theology.

    We get into everything from the predator versus protector binary to the loneliness epidemic among men, why anger becomes the only socially acceptable emotion, and how the “slippery slope” logic around touch wrecks healthy connection. Dan also walks through what healing can actually look like, including somatic awareness, parts work, and relearning how to experience pleasure and desire without shame. We wrap by talking about what it might look like to raise boys differently, with more room for emotions, curiosity, and care. Equal parts thoughtful, validating, and gently unhinged in the best way, this episode is for anyone trying to unlearn the damage purity culture did to their body, their relationships, or their sense of self.

    Connect with Dan:

    Website: CTRR Practitioner bio page

    Social Media: Straight White American Jesus Podcast, Co-Host, Instagram: @straightwhitejc, Twitter: @straightwhitejc

    Email: danielmillerswaj@gmail.com

    Resources discussed in this episode:

    Jesus and John Wayne by Kristen Kobes duMez

    This podcast is brought to you by the Center for Trauma Resolution and Recovery: an online trauma coaching company whose practitioners are trauma informed and trauma trained to work with individuals, couples and families who have experienced high control religion, cults, and religious trauma. For more information on the support that CTRR provides, for resources–including courses, workshops, and more–head to traumaresolutionandrecovery.com or follow us on Instagram: @traumaresolutionandrecovery

    The views and opinions expressed by Sunday School Dropouts are those of the hosts and not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the Center for Trauma Resolution and Recovery. Any of the content provided by our guests, sponsors, authors, or bloggers are their own ideas and opinions.

    The Sunday School Dropouts podcast is not anti-religion but it is anti -harm, -power and control, -oppression and, -abuse and will speak to the harmful practices and messaging of fundamentalist groups.

    Follow Andrew on Instagram and TikTok @deconstruct_everything

    To begin working with Andrew as a coach, schedule your FREE inquiry call here

    Follow Laura on Instagram and TikTok @drlauraeanderson or on her website: www.drlauraeanderson.com

    To work with Laura as a coach, therapist, consultant, or to inquire about other services, you can do so here

    Hosts:

    Laura Anderson and Andrew Kerbs

    Music by Benjamin Faye Music @heytherebenji

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    1 hr and 46 mins
  • From Purity Culture to Pleasure Preacher w/ Lauren Elise Rogers
    Jan 14 2026

    Lauren Elise Rogers, certified holistic sexuality educator and embodied intimacy coach, shares her powerful journey from wedding night virgin in a high-control religious environment to becoming a leading voice in sexual health and relationship coaching. This conversation explores the lasting impacts of purity culture and practical pathways to reclaiming agency, pleasure, and authentic intimacy.

    Share your purity culture stories with us by leaving a voicemail or sending your story to us!

    Connect with Lauren:

    Website: www.sexedforyou.com

    Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@sexedforyou

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sex_ed_for_you/


    Resources discussed in this episode:

    Jeff Moran - 7 Steps to Sexual Healing

    Necessary Endings by Henry Cloud

    Fantasy Bond by Robert Firestone

    This podcast is brought to you by the Center for Trauma Resolution and Recovery: an online trauma coaching company whose practitioners are trauma informed and trauma trained to work with individuals, couples and families who have experienced high control religion, cults, and religious trauma. For more information on the support that CTRR provides, for resources–including courses, workshops, and more–head to traumaresolutionandrecovery.com or follow us on Instagram: @traumaresolutionandrecovery

    The views and opinions expressed by Sunday School Dropouts are those of the hosts and not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the Center for Trauma Resolution and Recovery. Any of the content provided by our guests, sponsors, authors, or bloggers are their own ideas and opinions.

    The Sunday School Dropouts podcast is not anti-religion but it is anti -harm, -power and control, -oppression and, -abuse and will speak to the harmful practices and messaging of fundamentalist groups.

    Follow Andrew on Instagram @andrew_kerbs

    Follow Andrew’s post-SDA account @lifeafteradventism

    Follow Andrew’s account on neurodivergence and high control religion @divergent.faith

    Join Andrew’s Substack (Kerb Your Enthusiasm) www.andrewkerbs.substack.com

    To begin working with Andrew as a coach, schedule your FREE inquiry call here

    Follow Laura on Instagram and TikTok @drlauraeanderson or on her website: www.drlauraeanderson.com

    Join Laura’s Substack (Therapy in the Headlines) www.drlauraeanderson.substack.com

    To work with Laura as a coach, therapist, consultant, or to inquire about other services, you can do so here

    Hosts:

    Laura Anderson and Andrew Kerbs

    Music by Benjamin Faye Music @heytherebenji


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    1 hr and 42 mins
  • How do you Celebrate Christmas if you Don’t Believe in Santa (or Jesus)? (Re-Release)
    Dec 23 2025

    The Sunday School Dropouts are back with another episode of answering your questions about religious trauma and the holidays. Many of the questions today centered around finding new traditions post-religion, dealing with family members who don’t understand why you won’t go to church, and how to navigate co-parenting around this time of year when one person has left the church and the other hasn’t. Plus, Andrew and Laura are at it again with another holiday quiz game and sharing some of their own stories of how they celebrated the holidays as they deconstructed.

    This podcast is brought to you by the Center for Trauma Resolution and Recovery: an online trauma coaching company whose practitioners are trauma informed and trauma trained to work with individuals, couples and families who have experienced high control religion, cults, and religious trauma. For more information on the support that CTRR provides, for resources–including courses, workshops, and more–head to traumaresolutionandrecovery.com or follow us on Instagram: @traumaresolutionandrecovery

    The views and opinions expressed by Sunday School Dropouts are those of the hosts and not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the Center for Trauma Resolution and Recovery. Any of the content provided by our guests, sponsors, authors, or bloggers are their own ideas and opinions.

    The Sunday School Dropouts podcast is not anti-religion but it is anti -harm, -power and control, -oppression and, -abuse and will speak to the harmful practices and messaging of fundamentalist groups.

    Follow Andrew on Instagram and TikTok @deconstruct_everything

    Follow Laura on Instagram and TikTok @drlauraeanderson or on her website: www.drlauraeanderson.com

    Hosts:

    Laura Anderson and Andrew Kerbs

    Music by Benjamin Faye Music @heytherebenji

    Editing and Production by Kevin Crowe and can be found at kevincrowe.co.

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    59 mins
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