In this spacious, and deeply nourishing conversation, Laura is joined by leadership coach Nancy Larocca Hedley to explore the subtle art of completion, discernment, and listening to the body as a source of truth. Nancy brings wisdom from the world's spiritual traditions to her work with leaders, team facilitation, and leading in her community.

Together they reflect on how endings are not failures, but sacred thresholds, portals into the next chapter of becoming. From leaving long-held roles and relationships, to closing chapters at work, to making space for creativity, rest, and truth, Nancy shares how honorable closure has become one of her most powerful spiritual and leadership practices.

They talk about discomfort as a doorway, the difference between mental resistance and bodily knowing, the courage to have crucial conversations, and why our lives so often unfold through the unexpected rather than the planned.

This episode is a gentle invitation to slow down, notice what is complete, and trust what is quietly asking to be born.

• What You’ll Hear in This EpisodeHow Nancy learned to trust her body as her primary compass
• A powerful story of leaving Yahoo after a series of life signs
• The subtle signals that tell us when something is no longer ours to do
• The Enneagram as a tool for liberation rather than identity
• Laura and Nancy’s reflections on the “helper” archetype and self-care
• Why discomfort is often the doorway to freedom
• Letting go of caffeine, alcohol, and habits that no longer serve the body
• The difference between being busy and being available

Resources & Links

The Yamas (particularly non-stealing / right use of energy)The Enneagram (as a tool for ego awareness and freedom)Yoga philosophy and Kriya Yoga lineage (Yogananda, Roy Eugene Davis, Ellen Grace O’Brien)

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Music Featured

The music in each episode of Surrendering to the Signs has been carefully curated to enhance the episode, below is a list of all tracks featured.

List of Music

Easy to Love - Instrumental Version _Song by Saggie

Fold _Song by nuer self

Echoes of the Forest _Song by Thomas Ben Tov

Wakening_Song by Shai-li Paldi

Were Looking Up_Song by Chris Mason

Almanac_Song by Seth Parson

Same Side - No Lead Vocals_Song by Lemon J

In this deeply human conversation, Laura sits down with her longtime friend Tim Winters to explore the winding, painful, and ultimately transformative journey of addiction, surrender, and recovery.

Tim shares his story with remarkable openness, from a teenage sense of not quite belonging, to decades of alcohol and drug use that slowly narrowed his world, to the quiet, devastating moment when he realized he could no longer save himself.

He recounts the unforgettable car ride when his daughter-in-law drove him, without telling him where they were going, straight to rehab. A moment of fear, resistance, and finally surrender that would change the trajectory of his life.

What unfolds is not just a story about addiction, but about identity, worthiness, masculinity, grief, spirituality, and what happens when we finally stop running and let ourselves be helped.

What You’ll Hear in This Episode

• This episode is a powerful reminder that healing rarely arrives the way we expect but often exactly when we are ready.
• How early shame and identity struggles shaped Tim’s inner world
• Why alcohol and drugs became a way to feel connected, confident, and safe
• The slow progression from “social” use to silent dependency
• Why “just don’t drink today” became a life-saving reframe
• How anxiety and depression lifted only after sobriety began
• The power of routine, community, and spiritual practice in recovery
• How meditation and prayer became unexpected anchors
• What Tim wishes people understood about addiction, recovery, and compassion
• How small signs and nudges now guide his life in ways they never could before

Resources & Links

Alcoholics Anonymous (AA)

Father Martin’s Ashleigh House treatment center

Visit: surrenderingtothesigns.com

Music Featured

The music in each episode of Surrendering to the Signs has been carefully curated to enhance the episode, below is a list of all tracks featured.

List of Music

March the Machine - One Day - Creative Cut

James Forest - Emergency

Ben Winwood - Intimacy

Wav Two - Sakura

In this deeply resonant and wide-ranging conversation, Laura is joined by Jana Hendrickson, executive coach, researcher, and global citizen, to explore what it truly means to follow the signs even when fear, uncertainty, and practical logic are present.

Jana shares her extraordinary life journey, from growing up in East Germany with no spiritual framework, to a life shaped by intuition, somatic wisdom, faith, and profound trust in the unseen. Through vivid stories, turning away from Paris at the last moment, leaving a marriage she loved but had outgrown, years of nomadic living, and ultimately finding home. Jana illustrates how the body often knows the truth long before the mind catches up.

Together, Laura and Jana reflect on the discomfort of the “in-between,” the myth of instant clarity, the role of fear as a compass, and the difference between spirituality and religion. They also explore how social media, synchronicity, and shared stories can act as catalysts for courage and how our own brave choices quietly give others permission to make theirs.

This episode is a powerful reminder that surrender is not passive, it’s an active, embodied practice of listening, trusting, and moving forward one honest step at a time.

What You’ll Hear in This Episode:

• Jana’s first profound experience of listening to her body’s wisdom
• How “the pull” feels in the body and how to recognize it’
• The difference between clarity and certainty and why clarity often takes time
• Jana’s journey through divorce, grief, and radical self-trust
• Nomadic living, synchronicity, and saying yes without a roadmap
• How social media can act as a modern conduit for signs and connection
• Why our stories matter and how sharing them gives others courage
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Find Jana on Instagram at @iamjanahendrickson or connect with her on LinkedIn. She is currently completing her doctoral research in professional coaching and human development and is passionate about integrating spirituality, philosophy, neuroscience, and somatic intelligence into leadership practice. Jana’s work invites leaders to move beyond performance alone and into alignment, depth, and wholeness.

Resources & Links

World Domination Summit (Chris Guillebeau)

Brené Brown (early speaking work)

Nancy Duarte – The Arc of Storytelling

Marie Forleo’s B-School

The 4-Hour Workweek by Tim Ferriss

Tony Robbins coaching methodology

David Deida’s work on polarity

Visit: surrenderingtothesigns.com

Music Featured

The music in each episode of Surrendering to the Signs has been carefully curated to enhance the episode, below is a list of all tracks featured.

List of Music

Maya Pacziga - Winter in Paris

ANBR - Mon Amour

Nuer Self - Indigo

Kyle Preston - Cafe de Philosophie

Jozeque - Seal

Saggie - Easy to Love - Instrumental Version