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TOUCH THE LINE with Evan Silver

TOUCH THE LINE with Evan Silver

Written by: Evan Silver
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Creating the culture you want, being the leader you need to be and building a team to accomplish the vision all starts with Touching the Line. Touching the line is a term in sports when an athlete is running a familiar drill. You run to a line and you have to bend down and touch it. Few touch it as most just get close. In culture and leadership....you have to touch the line. There are no shortcuts. In leadership having hard conversations, making decisions that is best for the team and hiring the right people and caring for them...you have to touch the line.Evan Silver Economics Leadership Management & Leadership
Episodes
  • Raising Prices Is Personal: Leading Your Team Through Change
    Oct 19 2026

    Raising prices affects more than your service menu. Emily Richardson of Bella Trio joins Christopher to share how she prepared her team for new pricing through SCALE. From transparent conversations to personal handwritten notes, Emily explains how she helped her staff feel supported and confident in their value. They also explore why small price increases weren’t enough and what became clear when she looked deeper into the numbers.

    🔗 Resources & Links

    📈 Learn more about Growth Coaching:
    https://www.therefinenetwork.com/growth-coaching

    🎓 Explore The Artist Academy:
    https://www.therefinenetwork.com/artistacademy

    📊 Discover SCALE (the Refine systems program):
    https://www.therefinenetwork.com/scale

    📲 Download The Refine Network App (Apple & Android):
    Search “The Refine Network” in your app store

    📸 Follow us on Instagram:
    @therefinenetwork

    Chapters
    00:52 Could Your Business Run Without You for a Month?
    05:00 Meet Emily Richardson of Bella Trio
    06:18 Preparing Yourself Before Preparing Your Team
    08:05 Communicating Changes That Affect Personal Income
    10:29 Keeping Communication Clear Across Three Locations
    12:37 Why Money Conversations Need to Be Face to Face
    14:08 Helping Your Team Feel Worthy of Their Pricing
    18:17 Why a $5 Price Increase Wasn’t Enough
    20:11 Building Connection Through the SCALE Workshop
    22:09 Final Takeaways and How to Learn About SCALE

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    21 mins
  • Is Your Level System Holding Your Stylists Back?
    Oct 5 2026

    Your salon has a level system, but some of your strongest stylists are stuck. Is the problem their performance, or are the requirements no longer realistic?

    In this episode, Evan and Christopher look at what happens when a level system doesn’t keep up with changes in services, pricing, and the way stylists build their careers. They discuss why a high-performing artist might struggle to meet a retail target even while delivering strong service and retaining clients, and how holding that artist at the same level can limit both their earning potential and the salon’s growth.

    They also explore client-count goals that don’t match the time today’s services require, how to start a conversation with your team about metrics that aren’t working, and why small, flat price increases can mean less of a promotion for your most experienced artists. If your level system isn’t helping your stylists and your salon move forward, this conversation will help you see where to take another look.

    🔗 Resources & Links

    📈 Learn more about Growth Coaching:
    https://www.therefinenetwork.com/growth-coaching

    🎓 Explore The Artist Academy:
    https://www.therefinenetwork.com/artistacademy

    📊 Discover SCALE (the Refine systems program):
    https://www.therefinenetwork.com/scale

    📲 Download The Refine Network App (Apple & Android):
    Search “The Refine Network” in your app store

    📸 Follow us on Instagram:
    @therefinenetwork


    Chapters
    00:00 Concert tips and protecting your hearing
    03:32 Why stylists get stuck in level systems
    05:47 Is it the stylist or the metric?
    07:07 Rethinking retail goals as stylists advance
    08:20 How to talk with your team about changing expectations
    11:42 When client count no longer matches the services
    13:17 Building a career path that supports retention
    14:18 Why salons need a level system
    16:16 When it’s time to reevaluate yours
    17:02 The problem with a $5 increase at every level
    18:12 How Refine can help

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    19 mins
  • Why You Keep Hiring the Same People and Getting the Same Results
    Sep 21 2026

    If you keep hiring the same type of person and getting the same disappointing result, it may be time to take a closer look at your process. In this episode, we’re breaking down how your mindset, interview questions, onboarding, and decision-makers all influence who joins your team. We also explore why seeing potential in someone isn’t always the same as identifying the right fit.

    You’ll learn how to hire around your core values, recognize qualities like humility, drive, kindness, and coachability, and protect your culture when someone isn’t the right fit. The wrong hire can cost you financially, emotionally, and culturally. Sometimes, it really is better to have no one than the wrong one.


    🔗 Resources & Links

    📈 Learn more about Growth Coaching:
    https://www.therefinenetwork.com/growth-coaching

    🎓 Explore The Artist Academy:
    https://www.therefinenetwork.com/artistacademy

    📊 Discover SCALE (the Refine systems program):
    https://www.therefinenetwork.com/scale

    📲 Download The Refine Network App (Apple & Android):
    Search “The Refine Network” in your app store

    📸 Follow us on Instagram:
    @therefinenetwork


    Chapters

    00:00 What Pet Would You Choose?
    02:11 Why You Keep Getting the Same Hiring Results
    02:34 Changing Your Hiring Mindset
    04:20 Is Your Hiring Process the Problem?
    05:22 Who Should Make the Hiring Decision?
    06:25 Seeing Potential vs. Seeing the Right Fit
    07:09 Protecting Your Salon Culture
    07:32 Interview Questions That Reveal Character
    08:56 What Are Your Five-Year Goals?
    10:42 Hiring Around Your Vision and Core Values
    12:04 Your Team Reflects Your Leadership
    14:20 Knowing When Someone Isn’t the Right Fit
    15:20 Five Qualities to Look for in a New Hire
    19:11 How to Tell if Someone Is Coachable
    20:34 If It’s Not a Hell Yes, It’s a Hell No
    21:26 Reverse the Interview Question
    22:39 Take Your Leadership Further

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    24 mins
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