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This week on The Audit Podcast, our guest is William Englehaupt, CEO and founder of Autophagy and former director at KPMG.

Bill shares his perspective on bringing discipline, structure, and consistency to audits by applying Lean and Six Sigma principles to the audit process. Drawing on his experience working with hundreds of audit teams across large public accounting firms, he explains why audits should be treated as standard work and how reducing variation in execution can dramatically improve outcomes for both auditors and clients.

We talk about innovative audit methods, real-world client success stories, and why managing audits with urgency and control matters more than relying on theory or hoping things come together. Bill also walks through key ideas from his book, Managing the Hell Out of Your Audit, including the importance of upfront coaching and certifying staff before work begins to reduce rework, review notes, and frustration across audit teams

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2:52 - Bills BBQ

6:37 - A Favorite AI Prompt

9:45 - Innovative Approaches to Auditing

11:10 - Client Success Stories

16:53 - Bringing Discipline to New Methodologies

20:13 - Managing the Hell Out of Your Audit

23:08 - The Value of Upfront Coaching

26:40 - Final Thoughts

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This week on The Audit Podcast, our guest is Aadesh Gandhre, Chief Audit Executive at DTCC.

Aadesh shares his perspective on reshaping the perception of internal audit, both inside organizations and across the profession. Drawing on his background in technology and innovation, he explains why internal audit must move away from being seen as a spotlight that hunts for findings and instead become a lighthouse that helps organizations navigate risk and change.

We talk about servant leadership and how small cultural shifts, such as celebrating wins, encouraging experimentation, and reframing failure as learning, can unlock innovation within audit teams. Aadesh also walks through how his team is using gamification, internal recognition, and creative engagement to build a stronger audit brand and a more motivated global workforce.

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3:00 – Practical AI use cases

10:30 – The servant leadership mindset

14:55 – Scaling this approach based on team size

16:30 – Building the internal audit brand

26:40 – Bringing innovation into internal audit

33:12 – Making innovation a priority in the office

40:00 – Staying current with tools and resources

44:32 – The freeze–unfreeze–refreeze change management model

49:32 – Final thoughts

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This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype.

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This week on The Audit Podcast, our guest is Roberto Zambelli, Head of Audit at Vodafone Three.

Roberto breaks down the IIA's new topical requirements, with a particular focus on organizational behavior. He explains how these requirements are part of the IIA's Vision 2035 to modernize internal audit and provide clearer, more practical guidance for auditing complex and traditionally "soft" areas like culture and behavior.

We also discuss how topical requirements move audit from broad principles to more structured, consistent approaches—helping auditors better design reviews around specific topics such as data privacy, regulatory expectations, and organizational culture. Drawing on his background in behavioral science, Roberto shares his perspective on how auditors can assess culture in a more disciplined and meaningful way.

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1:32 – Personal ChatGPT Use Case

5:47 – Audits That Require Topical Requirements

11:05 – What Is a Topical Requirement?

15:41 – The Value of a Behavioral Audit

27:13 – What More Is Needed?

31:53 – Final Thoughts

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This week on The Audit Podcast, our guest is David Bowman, Senior Vice President and Global Chief Auditor at Unum Group.

David shares his innovative approach to using data analytics across his audit team. He talks through how his team—roughly 60 auditors across three countries and five audit groups—implements analytics in a way that delivers measurable results to stakeholders, even for smaller teams with limited resources.

We also dive into David's role in supporting these initiatives, the importance of audit culture, and his key lessons from 30 years of audit and audit leadership.

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Timecodes:

4:28 – Sourcing and building analytics capabilities

11:45 – When and how to engage a data analytics specialist

20:27 – Collaboration between the data analytics team and the Audit team

22:26 – Stakeholder feedback and insights

25:30 – Developing the next generation of leaders

33:18 – What it means to lead on a global scale

41:02 – The dos and don'ts of shaping company culture

46:29 - Final Thoughts

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This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype.

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This week on The Audit Podcast, we're joined by returning guest Jason Mefford, audit leader advisor and founder of the Audit Leader Forum.

Jason shares what it really means to have "real" conversations as an internal audit leader—and why authenticity, not ego, matters most. We talk through the situations where tough conversations come up most often, including with the board, the C-suite, executives, and staff.

He also breaks down practical advice for navigating difficult discussions and introduces the five areas of leadership audit leaders need to focus on as they move into senior roles.

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4:06 – What it means to be a "real" CAE

7:56 – How to have a "real" conversation

18:23 – Four scenarios where a real conversation is necessary

25:17 – Building confidence as a leader

30:33 – Dealing with confidence challenges

36:47 – Five key areas of leadership

45:38 – Final thoughts

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This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype.

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This week on The Audit Podcast, we're joined by Patrick Niemann, Partner and Leader of EY's U.S. Center for Board Matters.

Pat brings a unique perspective shaped by decades of working directly with boards and audit committees. In this episode, he shares what's top of mind for board members right now—from uncertainty in the economic and geopolitical landscape to evolving expectations around risk management.

We dig into how boards are thinking about cybersecurity, AI governance, and emerging technology risks, and how those conversations have changed over the past year. Pat explains why boards are moving beyond awareness and asking more pointed questions about how AI is being deployed, what risks it introduces, and how management teams are addressing them.

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Timecodes:

1:23 – What's ahead in 2026

4:02 – Board priorities for 2026

7:33 – AI and cybersecurity considerations

12:20 – Emerging risks in 2026

18:20 – How tariffs are shaping corporate investment

22:40 – Governance of AI agents in 2026

28:28 – The AI bubble question

32:11 – Final thoughts

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This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype.

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