The Writing Deal: Natasha, Madeleine and Tina on being a 'good literary citizen'.

Tina Strachan, Madeleine Cleary, and Natasha Rai share their updates in March: somatic therapy training, writing and editing in the snatches, immersion time, journalling, book research and more. Plus they brainstorm what their promo boxes look like and chat about what they are reading.

They reflect on advice from HarperCollins Australia Head of Fiction, Catherine Milne, about 'bailing-up' publishers at events, the art/commerce balance, comparison titles. They also discuss what being a 'good literary citizen' actually means.

00:00 Podcast intro

00:56 Monthly catch up

02:43 Writing in snatches

04:34 Structural edits crunch

11:11 Promo boxes!

14:55 Tina's self-care journal

18:57 Workshops and events

20:05 Spiritualist church book research

22:53 Publisher Pitch Reflections

24:20 Art Meets Commerce

29:31 Being a Good Literary Citizen

37:39 What We Are Reading

41:56 Wrap Up And Support

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Natasha Rai interviews author Bridie Blake days before her rom-com debut The Boyfriend Clause releases. Blake pitches the novel: café owner Sabrina Fogarty enters a fake-dating deal with her broody neighbor, bestselling author Adam Whitaker, which escalates when he joins her family holiday to the UK. Blake discusses becoming a rom-com reader during the pandemic, her earlier years writing dark YA and suspense, and years of rejections, including a two-year US submission during COVID after signing a US agent. She explains developing The Boyfriend Clause from a “white lie,” outlining with a pitch and detailed plan, and choosing to publish in Australia so her dad could see it in bookstores. Text Publishing acquired it quickly, and Blake has submitted book two and is drafting book three.

00:00 Podcast Intro
00:56 Meet Bridie and Launch Day
02:34 Release Nerves and Social Media
04:08 Elevator Pitch The Boyfriend Clause
05:27 Why Romcoms Feel Good
08:59 From YA Darkness to Romcom
10:08 Writing Since Childhood
11:48 Resilience Through Rejection
14:51 Querying and US Agent Journey
18:28 Pandemic Submission Heartbreak
20:14 Switching Genres to Adult Romcom
20:49 Origin of The Boyfriend Clause
25:38 Pitch First Then Outline
30:04 Drafting Timeline and Agent Edits
31:37 Making It Australian
32:34 Americanize The Manuscript
33:18 US Submission Reality Check
34:55 Choosing Australia First
38:39 Dream Publisher Submission
41:18 Full Request To Offer
47:29 Editing And Next Books
52:48 US Vs Australia Publishing
54:36 Routine Craft And Feedback
59:33 Final Advice And Wrap

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The Publishing Deal: Catherine Milne, Head of Fiction at HarperCollins, on Success, Bestsellers and Writing from the Heart

Catherine Milne has worked in publishing for many years, including with Penguin Books, Allen & Unwin, and since 2012, with HarperCollins, where she has been Head of Fiction since 2017. Her list is eclectic, ranging across fiction and non-fiction, but consistently award-winning and bestselling. It includes such successes as Trent Dalton, Julia Baird, Holly Ringland, Meg Mason, Jacqueline Maley, Alli Parker, Rebecca Armitage, Jacinta Parsons, Stan Grant, Rick Morton and Ben Crowe.

For more information about The Australian Fiction Prize, see here.

The Debut in the Spotlight this week is Sophie Stern, with her debut novel What is Left For Us (Penguin, March 2026).

00:00 Welcome to Book Deal

01:50 Catherine's start in publishing

06:12 The slush pile

08:35 Approaching publishers

10:21 Pitching

17:22 Inside Acquisitions Meetings

22:30 Second Book Pressure

25:48 Writing for Love

26:55 Debut in the Spotlight: Sophie Stern

28:11 Defining Success

29:44 Advances

33:26 Marketing Myths Breakouts

36:23 Case Study Sorrow & Bliss

41:20 State of the industry

47:54 The Australian Fiction Prize

52:49 Final Tip

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