This time, it’s just Matt and Ludo catching up and looking back at where life has taken them.

They talk about Ludo’s first season in Basel, now officially finished, the challenges, surprises, and everything that came with stepping into this new chapter. Meanwhile, Matt is finishing up his season and looking forward to the summer break!

Two friends, two different moments of transition, and a conversation about ballet, change, what we’ve learned, and what comes next.

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🎙️ New Episode – The Change Room with Matt & Ludo

This episode is a special one for us. We're joined by our longtime friend and former Stuttgart Ballet colleague, Marijn Rademaker. We've known each other for almost 20 years, sharing the stage, touring the world, countless rehearsals, and, above all, a lot of laughter.

Today, Marijn tells us about his inspiring new venture, WinnDance a project that brings together movement, sustainability, innovation, and a fresh way of thinking about dance and its impact.

It's a conversation about friendship, life after performing, reinventing yourself, and turning passion into purpose.

We hope you enjoy listening to this conversation as much as we enjoyed having it.

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In Season 2, Episode 3 of The Changeroom, Matt and Ludo are finally back together after some time apart—catching up, reflecting, and diving into a wide-ranging conversation.

From recent travels to Australia and Florida to thoughts on going around the world, we also touch on hierarchy within the company and how it shapes our daily work. Along the way, Matt takes on a spontaneous ballet quiz—with mixed results.

A relaxed and honest episode—just the two of us, back in the room.

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Matt & Ludo with Special Guest Eric Gauthier

What happens when the changeroom doors swing open and one of contemporary dance’s most fearless voices steps inside?

In this episode, Matt and Ludo are joined by choreographer, artistic director, and all-around powerhouse Eric Gauthier for a candid, funny, and refreshingly honest conversation. From life on stage to life off it, Eric dives into the realities of leading a company, taking creative risks, and staying human in an industry that demands everything—sometimes all at once.

They talk ambition and vulnerability, discipline and doubt, and the moments that shape you long after the curtain falls. Expect sharp insights, unexpected laughter, and a few truths you don’t usually hear said out loud.

Pull up a bench, take a breath, and step back into The Changeroom—where the real conversations happen.

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We’re back. 🎙️

Matt & Ludo return for a new season of The Changeroom — catching up, and easing back into conversation like we never left.

New season, same voices, same vibe.

🎧 Listen now.

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🎉 Season One Done!

That’s a wrap on Season One of The Changeroom!

Huge thanks to everyone who’s listened, supported, and been part of this with us. We’re super grateful — it’s been a wild, fun, and exciting ride.

We’re taking a little break now, but already excited for what’s next.

Thanks for being here.

Matt & Ludo 👊

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🎙️ Matt & Ludo Take Munich! 🇩🇪✨

This week, your favorite duo reunited in Munich for a little summer getaway — and of course, a show! Catch up with Matt and Ludo as they share laughs, stories, and behind-the-scenes moments from their trip. A special episode full of friendship, theatre, and a touch of Bavarian charm.

Tune in now – wherever you get your podcasts! 🎧

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🎙 Episode 20 of The Changeroom Podcast is LIVE! 🎉

We’re celebrating our 20th episode with a very special guest – Alexander Jones!

In this milestone episode, Matt and Ludo sit down with Alex to talk about his experience on Étoile (Amazon Prime) and dive into his inspiring transition – both personally and professionally. From the screen to new beginnings, Alex shares what life looks like now and what’s next on his journey.

You won’t want to miss this honest, powerful, and uplifting conversation.

✨ Stream now on all podcast platforms

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