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The Entangled Health Podcast

The Entangled Health Podcast

Written by: Madison Murphy Barney
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 The Entangled Health Podcast explores what is possible when we honor story as strategy. The show is hosted by Madison Murphy Barney, a public health storyteller and strategist. With her Master’s in Public Health from the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, Madison has worked with federal ministries of health, leading hospitals and healthcare systems, billion-dollar foundations, teaching hospitals, and large nonprofits to operationalize storytelling initiatives. Each episode of The Entangled Health Podcast weaves together story, strategy, and systems change. You’ll hear how organizations can use storytelling to: Build trust with communities Reconnect staff to purpose Influence policy and shift narratives Generate resources for lasting change This podcast is for leaders, practitioners, and dreamers who know that connection is medicine. 🔗 Stay Connected Take the Quiz → Discover where your organization most needs storytelling Let's connect on LinkedIn Lean more about how we can work together Reach out with questions and inquiries at mbarney@entangledhealth.com Links & Resources: Quiz: https://form.jotform.com/Mmbarney/storytelling-quiz LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/madison-murphy-barney/ Website: https://madisonmurphybarney.com/entangled-health Email Address: mbarney@entangledhealth.com© 2026 Madison Murphy Barney Hygiene & Healthy Living
Episodes
  • Rising Narratives for Radical Futures: A conversation with Jordan DeLoach

    Rising Narratives for Radical Futures: A conversation with Jordan DeLoach
    Nov 4 2026
    Jordan DeLoach, National Director at Radical Communicators Network (RadComms). Jordan joined May 2026, right after the Rising Narratives report was released. Jordan is an organizer at heart; frames their work through Mary Hooks’ mandate: “avenge the suffering of my ancestors, earn the respect of future generations”RadComms: community of movement and communications workers united against authoritarianismThe Rising Narratives for Radical Futures Report was a report across six thematic areas selected via democratic member congress as critical to a 2050 liberation vision: Climate abolition, regenerative economy, multiracial democracy, care and solidarity, global solidarity / beyond bordersCore question driving the research: how do we socialize these issues beyond the base and build a bigger we?Research grounded in Harmony Labs’ values-distinct audience framework (part of the Mindsets Consortium)Framework maps audiences on two axes: collectivism vs. individualism, and how they believe change happensFour audiences identified:People Power: collectivists, want to transform the system (the base)If You Say So: individualists, cynical, want to game the systemTough Cookies: collectivists, want to restore a “fair” system via law and orderDon’t Tread on Me: opposition, want to restore white supremacist valuesKey insight: RadComms speaks well to People Power but is not reaching movables in If You Say So and Tough CookiesShared thesis across movable audiences: “the system is rigged”Different audiences interpret this differently, but the agreement is a strategic entry pointIf You Say So response: “rig it for yourself,” an individualist path that can be reoriented toward collective solutionsGlobal solidarity is a missing frame in most media movable audiences consumeAbsence appears purposeful: full class consciousness requires understanding militarization, extractive economies, and global systemsBoots Riley’s film cited as a rare example connecting US and international worker strugglesAmerica-as-masculine narrative runs deep across Tough Cookies, Don’t Tread on Me, and some If You Say So mediaDiplomatic work and global solidarity coded as feminine, then dismissed as weak or naiveCaring for others outside oneself positioned as feminine and therefore wrongTension: hypermasculine American identity is increasingly attractive even as people acknowledge the system is riggedThat tension is an intervention opportunityNarrative urgency: “The North won the Civil War, but the South won the narrative war” (Bryan Stevenson)Oppressors push narrative constantly; ceding that ground is not an optionFunding tied to election cycles misses how culture actually shifts, which is long-term and collective (Anesha Hardy’s Applied Cultural Meaning and Memory Framework)Ritual moments as intervention points: elections, July 4th, and other politically charged datesOppressors reliably push false narratives at these moments; counter-presence matters even without full persuasionActive pilot: 9 base-building organizations working with Rising Majority on interventions ahead of electionsGoal: test Rising Narratives recommendations specifically to reach young men of colorProjects vary; one example involves connecting gaming and streamer culture to a collective protection identityResults releasing December 2026RadComms partner Bliss Collective runs “Solidarity Gyms”: structured activities for cross-community relationship building and practicing a bigger weRadical Futures Lab launched with the pilot cohort of 9 organizationsWill run more cohorts next year tied to Vision 2050 issuesFocus: participatory action research, distribution method testing, third spaces, new messengersDecember 2026: first cohort results releasedOfficial membership program launching November 2026Evolution from listserv to structured membership with educational programming, research, and conveningsMoving to a new online platformLinks:RadCommsRising Narratives for Radical Futures Report -🔗 Stay ConnectedTake the Quiz → Discover where your organization most needs storytellingLet's connect on LinkedInLean more about how we can work together at https://madisonmurphybarney.com/entangled-healthReach out with questions and inquiries at mbarney@entangledhealth.com
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    49 mins
  • The Origins of Epistemicide in American Public Health Pre-Colonial Health Systems

    The Origins of Epistemicide in American Public Health Pre-Colonial Health Systems
    Oct 21 2026
    19 mins
  • How American Public Health Arrived Here + The Choices We Need to Make to Go Forward

    How American Public Health Arrived Here + The Choices We Need to Make to Go Forward
    Oct 7 2026

    The story we've been told is that professional health and justice systems arrived and improved on messy, informal community care. That story has cause and effect backwards. Before professionalization, communities in the US had sophisticated, relational, place-based systems for health and accountability. They were displaced deliberately, over roughly 150 years, because they threatened the financial and political interests of people building institutions around different values.


    This episode introduces the term the series returns to in every era: epistemicide. The systematic destruction of community knowledge systems. It sets up the pattern the next five episodes will trace, era by era, and names the contradiction at the center of the present moment — institutions investing in "community engagement" while keeping community wisdom routed through their own gatekeepers.

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    🔗 Stay Connected

    Take the Quiz → Discover where your organization most needs storytelling

    Let's connect on LinkedIn

    Lean more about how we can work together at https://madisonmurphybarney.com/entangled-health

    Reach out with questions and inquiries at mbarney@entangledhealth.com
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    12 mins
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