This episode shares a conversation between Kes Otter Lieffe (she/her) and Nicole Rose (she/her). In this juicy conversation, they discuss their experiences and feelings about solo work vs collectivity, working class femme labour, hyperresponsibility patterns, how non humans sustain their work, connection and reciprocity with plants and non humans, and so much much!

This conversation originally took place in May 2025 at the Learning from our ecosystems: What could a deeper understanding of (queer) ecology teach us about design, resilience and reflection? event at Hyperwerk in Basel.

About Kes

Kes Otter Lieffe /kes ˈɒtə liːf/ is a writer and ecologist and has been involved in grassroots community struggles for over twenty years.

She has written four queer speculative fiction novels and she writes and teaches about queer ecology. Her work focuses on nature connection, mutual aid, and the intersections of class, queerness, disability justice and environmental defence.

Links & resources from this episode

1. https://otterlieffe.com/
2. https://kesotterlieffe.substack.com/
3. https://queerecology.substack.com/

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This episode shares a rundown of Solidarity Apothecary offerings including upcoming courses, group programmes, herbal care packages, 1:1 herbal support and more.

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1. 2026 Offerings - https://solidarityapothecary.org/2026-offerings/

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In this episode, Nicole (she/her) talks through the 2026 Herbal Path Planner that is available for free to help you design your herbal year. The episode explores choosing a plant to work with, skills you'd like to develop, how to meet people who love plants and so much more.

Links & resources from this episode

1. 2026 Herbal Path Planner - https://solidarityapothecary.org/product/herbalplanner/
2. Rooted in Struggle Programme - https://solidarityapothecary.org/rooted/

Find them all at solidarityapothecary.org/podcast/

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Music from Sole & DJ Pain – Battle of Humans | Plant illustrations by @amani_writes | In solidarity, please subscribe, rate & review this podcast wherever you listen.