Joe and Eric host special guest, Kipp Swinney, PhD, of Baylor University. In this episode we tangle with a complex issue. Does the Bible contain mythical stories? Must we read it in a way that accepts each narrative as an objective, historical, event written just as it happened? Could there be other ways to read Biblical narratives that honor a high view of the Bible? What if one accepts the idea that the Bible contains mythical stories? Does that invalidate the story of Jesus' resurrection and his claims for divinity that Christians accept as historical fact?

Joe and Eric are joined by special guest Bill Redmond. Bill is a devout Catholic and dropped by to discuss some of the theological differences between us. Many people have questions about the diverse views among Christian people wondering, "How can it be true if there are so many differing opinions?" That's a great question and one we wrestle with together. While we all hold the Bible in high esteem, Bill helps us out with a great turn of phrase. He asks whether we ought to be known first as, "People of the Person" rather than, "People of the Book."

Joe and Eric interview Pastor Ken Brown of Community Bible Church in Trenton, MI. Pastor Brown is the subject of a current article (June 2022) in The Atlantic entitled "How Politics Poisoned the Evangelical Church" authored by Tim Alberta. Brown offers his insight into this hot topic from his perspective of pastoring a Baptist church for over 20 years.