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The Product Design for Learning Podcast

The Product Design for Learning Podcast

Written by: Greg Arthur
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Welcome to The Product Design for Learning Podcast! I’m Greg Arthur, and I’m excited to guide you through an in-depth exploration of human-centered design, leadership development, performance consulting and visual design, to create incredible learning products and experiences. Whether you're an industry professional or simply looking to refine your skills, this podcast will help you tackle the challenges of product design with practical strategies that boost engagement and foster growth. Tune in for insights that will sharpen your approach and elevate your impact in the design worldCopyright 2025 Greg Arthur Economics
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  • Ep. 25 Education and the 'rebirth' of Learning (the unintentional Xmas episode)
    Dec 3 2025

    In this conversation, Greg Arthur and Nick Shackleton Jones explore the critical distinctions between education and learning, emphasizing the need for experience design in learning environments. They discuss the influence of social media on learning and development, the challenges posed by traditional learning models, and the importance of context in creating effective learning experiences. The conversation highlights the disconnect between theory and practice in learning, the rituals that often hinder progress, and the necessity for organizations to embrace real learning experiences over superficial metrics. In this conversation, Greg Arthur and Nick explore the evolving landscape of Learning and Development (L&D), discussing the moral dilemmas faced by professionals in the field, the impact of AI on education, and the importance of performance support and experience design. They delve into the challenges of leadership, the disillusionment many feel within the industry, and the need for a shift towards more meaningful learning experiences. The discussion highlights the reactive nature of the industry, the role of compliance, and the future of learning management systems, ultimately emphasizing the necessity of swimming against the tide to create impactful learning environments.


    Titles


    Rethinking Education and Learning

    The Influence of Social Media on Learning



    Sound bites


    "Why don't people change?"

    "It's a moral dilemma in L&D."

    "Do I want to step out of line?"



    Chapters


    00:00 Education vs. Learning: A Fundamental Distinction

    05:47 Conformity and Resistance to Change in Learning

    11:19 Experience Design: Lessons from Other Industries

    17:13 Transformative Experiences: The Power of Small Interactions

    27:57 The Disconnect in Job Advertisements

    32:47 Adapting 5DI for Real-World Applications

    39:38 The Metrics of Success in Learning

    50:06 The Birth of Learning Design

    55:33 Revolutionizing Training for New Consultants

    01:00:37 The Role of Learning Management Systems (LMS) and Experience Platforms (LXP)

    01:06:49 The Evolution of Wearable Technology and User Experience

    01:16:13 Swimming Against the Tide: The Role of Learning in Growth


    Keywords


    education, learning, experience design, social media, learning development, instructional design, performance support, data-driven learning, organizational change, engagement, Learning and Development, AI in Education, Performance Support, Experience Design, Leadership, Compliance, Future of Learning, Technology in Learning, Social Impact of AI, Career Choices in L&D



    Takeaways


    Education and learning are fundamentally different concepts.

    Social media influences the way learning and development discussions occur.

    Traditional learning models often fail to engage learners effectively.

    Experience design is crucial for creating impactful learning experiences.

    Contextual understanding is essential for effective learning.

    Small details in experience design can lead to significant learning outcomes.

    There is often a disconnect between learning theory and practical application.

    Organizations may adopt new language without changing underlying practices.

    Real learning experiences are often neglected in favor of traditional methods.

    Data-driven approaches in learning can sometimes lead to superficial metrics. It's a moral dilemma in L&D to choose between compliance and making a difference.

    Career choices in L&D often lead to a personal decision about impact.

    There's a dichotomy in available roles in the learning industry.

    AI is set to hollow out traditional education roles.

    Performance support is a key area where human input is

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    1 hr and 18 mins
  • Ep. 24 Why I'm leaving Learning.......(for now)
    Nov 19 2025

    Summary

    The conversation explores the significant changes occurring in the industry, focusing on the relevance of skills, the importance of positioning, and the need for professionals to adapt to stay competitive. It highlights the varying responses individuals have to these changes, from actively engaging to feeling left behind.



    Takeaways


    Our industry is undergoing significant transformation.

    The relevance of existing skills is in question.

    Many professionals feel unprepared for these changes.

    Positioning in the market is often neglected.

    Adapting to new skills is essential for success.

    There is a disparity in how individuals respond to change.

    Some are actively pursuing new opportunities, while others are passive.

    Professional development must be prioritized.

    Understanding market dynamics is crucial for career growth.

    Engagement with industry changes is necessary for relevance.



    Titles


    Navigating the Shifting Landscape of Our Industry

    The Relevance of Skills in a Changing World



    Sound bites


    "Chasing the bus is not enough anymore"

    "We need to adapt to stay relevant"

    "Understanding market perception is key"



    Chapters


    00:00 Introduction to the Conversation

    00:27 The State of Learning and Development (L&D)


    Keywords


    industry change, skills relevance, market positioning, professional development, career adaptation

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    1 hr
  • Ep.23 FINALLY, a refreshingly honest conversation about AI.
    Oct 22 2025

    In this conversation, Adam Harwood discusses the integration of AI in talent development and the importance of knowledge sharing within organizations. He emphasizes the need for curiosity and experimentation with AI tools, sharing personal experiences from workshops and internal sessions. The dialogue explores user stories, real-world applications, and the future of AI in HR, highlighting the significance of creating a culture that encourages exploration and collaboration.


    Takeaways


    AI is a tool that can enhance talent development.

    Knowledge sharing is crucial for effective AI integration.

    Curiosity and experimentation are key to leveraging AI.

    User stories help illustrate practical applications of AI.

    Creating a culture of experimentation fosters innovation.

    It's important to start with real problems when using AI.

    Don't hesitate to share failures; they can be learning opportunities.

    Mixing different AI tools can optimize processes.

    Engaging in dialogue about AI can spark new ideas.

    The future of work will require continuous learning and adaptation.



    Titles


    Unlocking AI's Potential in Talent Development

    Navigating the AI Landscape in the Workplace



    Sound bites


    "You can't spell AI without HR."

    "AI can help solve real problems."

    "Don't rely on one tool, mix it up."



    Chapters


    00:00 Introduction to Adam Harwood and Genomics

    02:52 Exploring AI in Talent Development

    08:42 Understanding AI Fundamentals and Learning

    14:26 Knowledge Sharing and Internal Sessions

    20:19 User Stories and Practical Applications of AI

    22:19 Exploring AI Tools: A Hands-On Approach

    24:06 Real-World Applications of AI in Engineering

    26:01 Identifying Real Problems for AI Solutions

    27:28 The Impact of AI on HR Processes

    29:11 User Stories: Individual Experiences with AI

    31:36 Creating a Culture of Sharing and Experimentation

    34:06 Navigating Permission and Social Acceptance of AI

    38:09 Encouraging Experimentation and Curiosity with AI

    41:23 Identifying Problems to Apply AI Solutions

    42:35 Fostering Team Collaboration and Sharing Ideas

    44:59 Embracing Experimentation and Learning from Failure

    47:53 The Simplicity of AI Interfaces and Accessibility

    49:53 Building an AI Tech Stack and Continuous Learning

    52:46 Exploring AI Use Cases and Industry Trends

    55:11 The Future of Work and AI's Impact on Jobs


    Keywords


    AI, Talent Development, Knowledge Sharing, User Stories, Workplace Innovation, Learning and Development, AI Tools, Human-Centered Design, Future of Work, Experimentation

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    1 hr and 1 min
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