In this episode of The Rough Draft, Kelly and Loyd discuss the nuts and bolts of the freelance writing business - how to negotiate rates, red flags to look for, and other details. Also, the Wordplay segment, Kelly discusses the difference between "farther" and "further" while Loyd takes issue with the overuse and misuse of the word "unique". Take a listen. It's our most unique episode yet. 😏

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Kelly's Reading Recommendation

The Memory Police, by Yoko Ogawa

Loyd's Recommendation

1959: The Year Everything Changed, by Fred Kaplan

In this episode of The Rouge Draft, Kelly and Loyd spend some time with special guest, Joe Crowe. Joe is a talented writer, editor, comedian, sci-fi geek, and professional wrestling connoisseur, as well as a long-time friend of Kelly and Loyd.

In the wordplay segment, Kelly discusses the word “blithe” and why it should be more common while Loyd gripes about “badonkadonk"” not being a playable word in the New York TImes spelling bee. And, as always, they share their reading recommendations.

Kelly’s Recommendation

Radium Girls, by D.W. Gregory

Loyd’s Recommendation

The Church of Baseball: The Making of Bull Durham: Home Runs, Bad Calls, Crazy Fights, Big Swings, and a Hit, by Ron Shelton

WE'RE BACK! After a lengthy hiatus, Kelly Rogers Flynt and Loyd McIntosh are back with a new episode of The Rough Draft. With the recent release of the new Bob Dylan biopic "A Complete Unknown," Kelly and Loyd thought it would be fun to discuss song lyrics in order to answer a serious question: are song lyrics literature.

Also, in the Word Play segment, Loyd and Kelly discuss how to use the word "actually" without sounding like a pompous know-it-all, and, of course, we give our reading recommendations. We promise not to take 4 months off ever again!

Kelly's Recommendation

Connie: A Memoir, by Connie Chung

Loyd's Recommendation

Esses Magazine, a magazine covering the culture and passion of Grand Prix Racing.

In this episode of The Rough Draft: A Writing Podcast, Kelly and Loyd chat with noted freelance journalist Liz Garone. Liz contributes regularly to The Wall Street Journal, Time, The Washington Post, and other prominent news outlets, and shares her journey to becoming an in-demand, full-time freelance writer. Also, Kelly laments the loss of literary references in regular language and Loyd takes aim at the word “sadly.”

Kelly Recommendation

The Forever War, by Joe Haldeman

Loyd’s Recommendation:

No Way To Treat A First Lady, by Christopher Buckley

On this episode of The Rough Draft, Kelly and Loyd discuss the state of print publishing, especially magazines. Slick magazines hold a special place in their hearts, and even though the zine biz has taken it on the chin in recent years, they are happy to report that magazines — printed on actual paper — appear to be making a comeback!

Also, in the Wordplay segment, Kelly discusses the various forms of the Latin root “locutio” and Loyd shares his appreciation of a-guy-walks-into-a-bar jokes. (Note from Loyd: If you have a good bar joke, send it to me at theroughdraftthewritingpodcast@gmail.com, the longest email address on earth).

Kelly’s Book Recommendation

The Warmth of Other Suns: The Epic Story of America's Great Migration, by Isabel Wilkerson

Loyd’s Book Recommendation
Moneyball: The Art of Winning an Unfair Game, by Michael Lewis

On this episode of The Rough Draft, Kelly and Loyd are joined by Doug Segrest. A longtime sports writer, Segrest is also a novelist and playwright with one book and three produced plays under hit belt. A native of Montgomery, Alabama, and a graduate of the University of Alabama, he spent 30 years as a newspaper reporter in Nashville and Birmingham before moving to the corporate world. He was recently named one of 50 Alabama Sports Writers Associations Legends, and he continues to cover sports as a co-host of "The Zone" Sunday nights on ABC 33/40 and through instant impact columns in the Anniston Star, Decatur Daily and Florence Times-Daily.

In the Wordplay Segment, Kelly sets us straight on the word "traipse" while Loyd takes exception with Oxford Dictionary and proves to be one heck of a blithering sports writer. Lastly, Loyd takes a moment to highlight the work of author Nelson DeMille who passed away on September 17 at the age of 81.

Kelly's Recommendation:

The Island of Sea Women, by Lisa Sea

Loyd’s Recommendations:

Plum Island and The Gold Coast, by Nelson DeMille

On this episode of The Rough Draft, Kelly and Loyd spend some time - a little too much time, actually - each talking about one of their favorite writers. Kelly chooses her favorite author Jane Austen and Loyd returns to familiar territory, George Plimpton. Also, Loyd and Kelly discuss the importance of forming relationships with sources in their journalism work, and they discuss possible reasons why the word “kibosh” was edited from one of Loyd’s recent high school football game stories. We do our best not to cause a kerfuffle, too.

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On this episode of The Rough Draft, Kelly and Loyd discuss some of their favorite books that have been adapted into movies. Kelly chooses Killers Of The Flower Moon by David Grann and the classic Harper Lee novel To Kill A Mockingbird. Loyd selects Up In The Air by Walter Kirn and perhaps the first realistic novel exposing professional football, North Dallas 40 by Peter Gent. Also, in the Word Play segment, Kelly takes issue with the word “basically” and Loyd suggests it’s time to retire to the acronym G.O.A.T.

Loyd’s Recommendation: Blood Will Out by Walter Kirn

Kelly’s Recommendation: The Aviator’s Wife by Melanie Benjamin