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The Smokeless Word

The Smokeless Word

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Dive deep into transformation, collaboration, and decision-making that drives real change with BAT’s Chief Corporate Officer, Kingsley Wheaton, and his guests. In each episode, we engage in candid, no-holds-barred discussions with guests from diverse walks of life - from BAT insiders to thought-leaders beyond. Expect frank, informed, insightful, and at times, humorous discussions that encourage you to think differently, challenge your assumptions, and inspire fresh thinking on how to achieve meaningful and durable change. In 2024, BAT launched Omni™ to spark genuine conversation about building a Smokeless World. The Smokeless Word is part of that initiative, providing a platform for open dialogue and transformative ideas. Download Omni™: https://www.asmokelessworld.com/gb/en DISCLAIMER Intended for regulators, scientists, policymakers, investors, public health bodies and associated media outlets only. Not intended for US audiences or product promotion. Nicotine is addictive and not risk free. Any reduced risk or reduced harm references are based on the weight of the evidence, and are made in comparison to cigarettes assuming a complete switch from smoking.Copyright 2025 All rights reserved. Economics
Episodes
  • Episode 10 - Zak Brown (Christmas Special)
    Dec 18 2025

    CHRISTMAS SPECIAL: Kingsley is joined by Zak Brown, CEO of McLaren Racing.

    Fresh off an extraordinary season - Constructors Champions and Lando Norris winning the Drivers Championships - this episode unpacks the transformation that made it possible.

    As the strategist behind McLaren’s return to the front of the grid, Zak shares rare perspectives on rebuilding a legacy team: shifting culture, unlocking performance, and forging partnerships.

    Join Kingsley and Zak as they dive into McLaren’s electrifying journey this season, the bold changes and revitalisation he’s driven, and the leadership mindset behind their remarkable comeback.

    This is a masterclass in transformation you won’t want to miss!

    DISCLAIMER

    Intended Audience: This podcast is intended for regulators, scientists, policymakers, investors, media and public health bodies only. This material is not intended for US audiences.

    Personal Views: The views expressed in this podcast are the personal opinions of the speaker only.

    No Product Promotion: Nothing in this podcast is intended to promote or endorse the consumption of the product referred to.

    Risk and Harm Statements: Nicotine products are addictive and not risk free. Any references to products having a reduced risk or reduced harm are based on the weight of the evidence and assume no continued smoking.

    Content Warning: This podcast contains some swearing that may not be suitable for all listeners.

    The podcast guest was not paid for their appearance.

    BAT Investments is the copyright holder of this podcast.

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    35 mins
  • Episode 9 - Nike Örbrink
    Dec 4 2025

    The Smokeless Word is back! Join Kingsley in Sweden as he sits down with Nike Örbrink, Head of the Christian Democrats (KD) in Stockholm City Hall. From her early political awakening at 18 to leading her party in Sweden’s capital, Nike shares her journey into public life, the challenges of representing a smaller party, and the unique pressures of modern politics.

    They also explore Sweden’s progress toward smoke-free status, the cultural role of snus, and how tobacco harm reduction policies could guide European regulation - all while touching on Nike’s life beyond politics, from football to pub quizzes.

    DISCLAIMER

    Intended Audience: This podcast is intended for regulators, scientists, policymakers, investors, media and public health bodies only. This material is not intended for US audiences.

    Personal Views: The views expressed in this podcast are the personal opinions of the speaker only.

    No Product Promotion: Nothing in this podcast is intended to promote or endorse the consumption of the product referred to.

    Risk and Harm Statements: Nicotine products are addictive and not risk free. Any references to products having a reduced risk or reduced harm are based on the weight of the evidence and assume no continued smoking.

    Content Warning: This podcast contains some swearing that may not be suitable for all listeners.

    The podcast guest was not paid for their appearance.

    BAT Investments is the copyright holder of this podcast.

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    28 mins
  • Episode 8 - Derek Yach
    Nov 19 2025

    The Smokeless Word returns with a timely conversation from Brussels as COP11 takes place this week. On this episode, Kingsley sits down with global health expert and former WHO Executive Director, Derek Yach.

    As one of the architects behind the modern global approach to tobacco control, Derek offers rare insight into the origins of the FCTC, sharing untold stories from its early negotiations, and explains why some of its most important clauses, including harm reduction, were never activated.

    Their conversation spans the failure of policymaking over the past decade, the nature of the messenger in communications and the WHO’s evolving role. Derek offers a frank assessment of where global tobacco control has faltered and where he sees hope for rapid change.

    Join Kingsley and Derek for an episode rich in history, insight, and forward-looking perspective.

    DISCLAIMER

    Intended Audience: This podcast is intended for regulators, scientists, policymakers, investors, media and public health bodies only. This material is not intended for US audiences.

    Personal Views: The views expressed in this podcast are the personal opinions of the speaker only.

    No Product Promotion: Nothing in this podcast is intended to promote or endorse the consumption of the product referred to.

    Risk and Harm Statements: Nicotine products are addictive and not risk free. Any references to products having a reduced risk or reduced harm are based on the weight of the evidence and assume no continued smoking.

    Content Warning: This podcast contains some swearing that may not be suitable for all listeners.

    The podcast guest was not paid for their appearance.

    BAT Investments is the copyright holder of this podcast.

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    20 mins
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