Episodes

  • Together Project Season 2 - Episode 10: Rethinking Leadership: Tim Lucas on Creating A 50/50 Leadership Culture
    Nov 15 2025

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    Tim shares his journey from a traditional church upbringing to leading a diverse, gender-inclusive ministry. He discusses the importance of empowering women in leadership, the significance of flexibility in the workplace, and the ongoing challenge of creating a healthy, dynamic church environment. Tim also highlights key principles, such as the screen test, sibling test, and secrets test, to maintain integrity and trust in male-female working relationships. This episode is packed with valuable leadership lessons, practical advice, and inspiring stories from Liquid Church.

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    45 mins
  • Together Project Season 2 - Episode 9: From Tradition to Inclusion: Chris Hansler’s Journey to Empowering Female Leaders in the Church
    Oct 15 2025

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    In this episode of the Together Project, host Kadi Cole sits down with Chris Hansler—her husband, denominational leader, and longtime advocate for women in ministry. Chris shares his personal journey from a traditional upbringing to becoming a champion for women’s leadership in the church. Together, they discuss the cultural and theological shifts that shaped his perspective, the challenges and breakthroughs of advocating for women in leadership roles, and practical steps for creating more inclusive spaces in ministry. Whether you’re a church leader, aspiring female pastor, or simply interested in the evolving landscape of faith communities, this candid conversation offers valuable insights, encouragement, and resources for supporting women’s voices in the church.

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    46 mins
  • Together Project Season 2 - Episode 8: Intentional Inclusion: Jack Warren on Empowering Women in Ministry
    Aug 19 2025

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    In this insightful episode of the Together Project podcast, host Kadi Cole engages in a deep conversation with Jack Warren, an executive pastor, about his journey and experiences in advocating for women in leadership roles within the church. They discuss Jack's upbringing, his professional path, and the biases he has observed and addressed within church culture. This episode sheds light on the intentional steps necessary to create a more inclusive environment, while highlighting the personal and organizational benefits of championing female leaders.

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    38 mins
  • Together Project Season 2 - Episode 7: When the Room Isn’t Ready: Leading Through Change with Chad Moore
    Aug 11 2025

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    In this episode, host Kadi Cole welcomes Chad Moore from Sun Valley Community Church to discuss his journey and experiences with gender roles and leadership in the church. They dive deep into Chad's background, the influence of his wife, Katrina, and the progressive steps his church has taken to empower women in ministry.

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    34 mins
  • Together Project Season 2 - Episode 6: Championing Women in Leadership with Dave Ferguson
    Jun 18 2025

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    In this episode, Kadi interviews Dave Ferguson about his journey and commitment to advocating for women in leadership within the church. They discuss Dave's personal experiences growing up, the influence of his mother, the early days of his church plant, and the theological and strategic reasons behind promoting women in leadership roles. The conversation also covers practical steps and intentional actions Dave has taken to integrate and support women leaders across various platforms and organizations he leads.

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    40 mins
  • Together Project Season 2 - Episode 5: Leading Side by Side: Jason & Erica on Building a Church Together
    May 15 2025

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    In this episode of Together Project Season 2, Jason and Erica, co-lead pastors from Salt Lake City, share their experiences and insights on leadership, gender roles in the church, and their journey in ministry. Hosted by Kadi, they discuss the challenges and rewards of leading a church together as a married couple, the importance of theological conviction, and the dynamics of leadership development. They also touch on how they navigate their roles and responsibilities, encourage both men and women in leadership, and emphasize the need for clarity and conviction in ministry. Whether you're a church leader or someone interested in modern ministry practices, this episode offers valuable perspectives on collaborative leadership and gender equality in the church.


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    Developing Female Leaders

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    43 mins
  • Together Project Season 2 - Episode 4: Breaking Stained Glass Ceilings: Tim & Brian on Elevating Female Leadership in the Church
    Apr 15 2025

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    In this episode, Kadi is joined by Tim and Brian from Slingshot Group to discuss the challenges and opportunities for placing high-capacity female leaders within churches. They delve into their personal backgrounds, the differences in cultural perceptions of gender roles in leadership, and explore the blind spots and fears male leaders may encounter. The conversation also highlights strategies for creating inclusive environments and provides advice for both male and female leaders on fostering balanced leadership teams. Join us for an insightful dialogue on maximizing leadership potential in church communities.

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    34 mins
  • Together Project Season 2 - Episode 3: Rethinking Female Leadership in the Church: A Conversation with David Uth & Kadi Cole
    Mar 15 2025

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    David Uth and Kadi Cole Discuss Women in Church Leadership


    In this insightful episode of the Together Project Podcast, Kadi Cole interviews David Uth about women in church leadership. They discuss David's journey in ministry, the theological and cultural challenges around women's roles in the church, and practical steps to foster inclusive leadership. David also shares his personal experiences, offers apologies to women who have felt sidelined, and provides encouraging words for future female leaders in the church.


    Resources for the episode:

    https://www.amazon.com/Two-Views-Women-Ministry-Counterpoints/dp/031025437X

    https://www.amazon.com/Changed-Mind-about-Women-Leadership/dp/0310293154

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    50 mins