Horror phenom Stephen Graham Jones (The Only Good Indians, The Buffalo Hunter Hunter) joins Kat and Katie to kick off spooky season with his latest novel, Off the Reservation. He takes us inside the haunted RV at the heart of the story, reveals why possession terrifies him more than any other horror trope, and shares the hilariously dedicated methods he’s tried to become a werewolf. Plus, the stories and personal experiences that turned him into a writer, and how he managed to get his dream audiobook cast.

Audiobooks mentioned in this episode:

Off the Reservation by Stephen Graham Jones | Narrated by Shaun Taylor-Corbett, Darrell Dennis, Tomi Endter, Kimberly Guerrero, Jana Schmieding

The Only Good Indians by Stephen Graham Jones | Narrated by Shaun Taylor-Corbett

The Buffalo Hunter Hunter by Stephen Graham Jones | Narrated by Shane Ghostkeeper, Marin Ireland, Owen Teale

Wandering Stars by Tommy Orange | Narrated by Shaun Taylor-Corbett, MacLeod Andrews, Alma Cuervo, Curtis Michael Holland, Calvin Joyal, Phil Ava, Emmanuel Chumaceiro, Christian Young, Charley Flyte

There There by Tommy Orange | Narrated by Darrell Dennis, Shaun Taylor-Corbett, Alma Cuervo, Kyla Garcia

My Heart is a Chainsaw by Stephen Graham Jones | Narrated by Cara Gee

Mapping the Interior by Stephen Graham Jones | Narrated by Shaun Taylor- Corbett

Ears by Stephen Graham Jones | Coming March 9, 2027

The Language Puzzle by Steven Mithen | Narrated by Kerry Hutchinson

Mazywood by Tananarive Due | Narrated by Joniece Abbott-Pratt

Romance author Jasmine Guillory (The Wedding Date, By the Book) joins Kat and Katie to celebrate her young adult debut, It's Only Dancing. She shares what it took to pivot from adult romance into YA, how Dirty Dancing inspired the novel—but got a fresh, diverse update in her telling—and why she thinks the future of rom-coms is looking brighter than ever.

Audiobooks mentioned in this episode:

It’s Only Dancing by Jasmine Guillory | Narrated by Jasmine Guillory

Southern Belle Insults by Keke Palmer and Jasmine Guillory | Narrated by Keke Palmer

The Wedding Date by Jasmine Guillory | Narrated by Janina Edwards

You Should See Me in a Crown by Leah Johnson | Narrated by Alaska Jackson

Meet Me in the Garden by Nina LaCour | Narrated by Angel Pean

BookTok powerhouse Colleen Hoover (It Ends with Us, Woman Down) joins Katie and Kat ahead of the theatrical release of the adaptation of her novel, Verity. She discusses her career trajectory, from self-publishing her first novel so her grandma could read it on a Kindle to becoming an international bestselling author with books Hollywood can’t get enough of, and what she thinks of the highly anticipated new film.

Audiobooks we mention in this episode:

Verity by Colleen Hoover | Narrated by Vanessa Johansson and Amy Landon

Slammed by Colleen Hoover | Narrated by Heidi Baker

Woman Down by Colleen Hoover | Narrated by Sarah Naughton

The Simple Wild by K.A. Tucker | Narrated by Rebekkah Ross

Ten Tiny Breaths by K.A. Tucker | Narrated by Elizabeth Louise

Love, Theoretically by Ali Hazelwood | Narrated by Thérèse Plummer

Heart Bones by Colleen Hoover | Narrated by Angela Goethals

Lights Out by Navessa Allen | Narrated by Elena Wolfe and Jacob Morgan

Fantasy author Leigh Bardugo (Shadow and Bone, The Familiar) helps Kat and Katie usher in spooky season with the launch of the final book in her Ninth House trilogy, Dead Beat. She explains how she looks for magic under the facades of the real world, reveals her incredible talent for movie-trailer marketing, and tells us about her OTP (one true pairing) with her ride-or-die narrator, Lauren Fortgang.

Note for listeners: This episode contains one instance of strong language.

Audiobooks we mention in this episode:

Dead Beat by Leigh Bardugo | Narrated by Lauren Fortgang and Michael David Axtell

Ninth House by Leigh Bardugo | Narrated by Lauren Fortgang and Michael David Axtell

Shadow and Bone by Leigh Bardugo | Narrated by Lauren Fortgang

The Familiar by Leigh Bardugo | Narrated by Lauren Fortgang

Rita Hayworth and Shawshank Redemption by Stephen King | Narrated by Frank Muller

Six of Crows by Leigh Bardugo | Narrated by Jay Snyder, Brandon Rubin, Fred Berman, Lauren Fortgang, Roger Clark, Elizabeth Evans, Tristan Morris

National Book Award-winning author Elizabeth Acevedo (The Poet X, Family Lore) joins Kat and Katie to discuss her new young adult novel, Anger Is Only A Shadow. She shares the ways music, rapping, and poetic recitation are woven into her novels, how she's rejecting hustle culture (while still working on multiple books at once), and learning new writing rhythms through her season of motherhood.

Audiobooks and authors we mention in this episode:

Anger is Only a Shadow by Elizabeth Acevedo

The Poet X by Elizabeth Acevedo

Nate Marshall

Angie Thomas

Jose Olivarez

Safia Elhillo

Danez Smith

Robert Frost

Toni Morrison

Maya Angelou

Hanif Abdurraqib

Clint Smith

Sabaa Tahir

Lauren Groff

Former NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick is in the studio with Kat and Katie to discuss his richly sound-designed new memoir, The Perilous Fight. Ten years after he first took a knee, he shares the stories that led him to become one of the most prominent activists of a generation.

This week, Red Queen and Realm Breaker author Victoria Aveyard sits down with Katie and Kat for the launch of her first adult novel, Tempest. We talk pirates, formative fandoms, and having an audience that grows up with you.

Explore the listens recommended in this episode: audible.com/victoriaaveyardepisoderecs.

And we’re back! After a summer hiatus, Katie and Kat return with this Fall’s most anticipated releases, from award-nominated fiction to buzzy celebrity memoirs and the return of vampires.

To see the Fall Preview list in full, visit: audible.com/fallpreview2026.